Hi to all,
I've the need to use some clips from a home made DVD in my project, so I think I must extract the MPEG2 video stream and the audio stream from the VOBs. I red many threads in this forum regarding to do that, and they say to use DVD2AVI to produce a .d2v project file and "frameserve" TMPGEnc with it to create a MPEG2 file. My question is:
inside the VOB file there is already a MPEG2 stream, how can I extract it without re-encoding it?

Many thanks for the help.

Depending on what the audio is in the VOBS you could simply cut out the bit you need with th 'Merge&Cut' feature in the MPEG tools.
If the audio is AC3 you will lose the audio, however if it is MP2 then you will be fine.

I think VOB is not just an MPEG2 stream, but contains multiple MPEG2 video, audio, subtitle streams, so you still have to use software like DVD2AVI that understand VOB to locate particular MPEG2 video or audio stream, extract it, and re-encode it into standalone MPEG2 again.

Trust me, no you don't.
The Merge&Cut feature will work just fine with VOBs. VOBs don't contain multiple video only multiple audio and subs.
Either way it doesn't matter.

TMPG will simply ignore the subs streams and just output an ordinary MPEG2 stream, however it won't output AC3 and it will automatically select the first audio track.

If you do want to keep multiple streams or then AC3 then use a VOB cutter like MPE2cut or the one I prefer is ChopperXP: http://www.digital-miner.com/chopperxpf.html

Whatever you use there is no need whatsoever to do any re-encoding.

>Trust me, no you don't.
>The Merge&Cut feature will work just fine with VOBs. VOBs don't contain multiple video only multiple audio and subs.
>Either way it doesn't matter.
>
I've tried but the Merge&Cut feature of TMPGEnc doesn't work in my case: it can cut only the first clip in the VOB which contains 3 clips. When I try to cut other parts of the VOB (which I'see perfectly in preview)it says "illegal MPEG stream" or something like that.
For the audio part I've tried with the Demultiplex feature (not simple de-multiplex...)and I've been able to extract perfectly the AC3 audio strem which I wanted (2 are present in the VOB).

Many thanks for the help.

Hi,

I've done a conversion to SVCD. Apparently all right. Burned and tryied.
The problem: there is an annoying flickering in scenes with much movement.
I've tryied to set the DVDPlayer from PAL to NTSC and then the problem disapears.
I need PAL format, and i don't exactly know if the problem is with the Interlace/Non-interlaced parameter...
Any clue?.

Thanks!.

What do you mean by flickering?
If it was an interlacing problem then you would see a sort of combing effect on verticals when there is movement.
Changing from PAL to NTSC wouldn't correct this.

If you mean jerky playback then if the source is NTSC and you encode to PAL then this would cause it.

However if the effect is more like a strobing effect then it could be you have set the field order wrong.

>What do you mean by flickering?

A blinking effect, like overlaping frames, resulting in a non smooth playback. It's like a framerate problem (but i think that 25 fps is ok). The question is: why does it work fine and smooth when i set the player in NTSC format?

>If it was an interlacing problem then you
>would see a sort of combing effect on verticals
>when there is movement.
>Changing from PAL to NTSC wouldn't correct this.

Then perhaps that's not the problem.

>If you mean jerky playback then if the source
>is NTSC and you encode to PAL then this would
>cause it.

The source and destination are PAL. Definitively not jerky playback.

>However if the effect is more like a strobing effect
>then it could be you have set the field order wrong.

I would discard this option.

Thanks anyway.

Solved! An interlaced problem. I had to set the output as Non-interlaced, and thus apply the Deinterlace filter. Now it runs perfect!.

I solved my flickering problem by select "Force FILM" in DVD2AVI which converts 29fps progress source VOBs to 23fps progress d2v, and then use "NTSC Film" and "Non-interlace" in TMPGEnc to encode.

Just using the "Non-interlace" in TMPGEnc doesn't solve my flickering problem.

As i wrote in other thread, i configured TMPGEnc this way:

Video Tab:
- Encode Mode: Non-Interlace

Advanced Tab:
- Video Source type: Non interlace (progressive)
- Field Order: Bottom field
- (Filters): Deinterlace (Odd Field)

PS:
Remember that i needed PAL format.

I can'tunderstand why you are attempting to de-interlace a progressive stream.
There is no need worry about field order or de-interlacing with a progressive stream.

I always re-encode progressive sources to progressive frames whether they be PAL or NTSC.

I have a standalone dvd recorder and I'm trying to make VCD files from the VOB's recorded.
TMPGEnc2.59 give me the error message: can not open file or are unsupported.
I have done this a million times before and it has worked.
Info:
Recorder - LiteOn 5005
Disc - FUJI DVD+RW and -RW (tested both and also tested open and closing the discs)

Does the recorder burn the files differently than regular commercial DVD's?
Does anyone else have these problems with other recorders?

Any info is greatly appretiated.

Forgot to mention that when trying to open the VOB's with DVD Author it works.

But I want to make VCD out of my VOB's...

You need to install an MPEG2 codec.
http://www.marumo.ne.jp/mpeg2/m2v_vfp-0.6.48.lzh

I've already done that.
I can use TMPGEnc for all DVD's I have, but the ones made by my recorder.
I'm a little bit puzzled over this since the discs made by my last recorder SONY GX-3R (or something like that) worked just fine.

The strange thing is that even if I rip my recorded disc to my harddrive and work from there I still get error messages and that should mean that there's no wrong in the choice of brand of the DVD+RW.
Something in the VOB's are not right...

My friend has Ulead DVD Workshop 2 and I went to him knowing that WS2 converts VOB's to mpg's while importing them to the program. I took home the newly created mpg files and TMPGEnc can't convert the mpg's either which shold suggest that the VOB's/mpg's really isn't valid files.

The strange thing is that all DVD players that I've put the recorded discs it works just fine. Not one has rejected any disc and that should suggest that the files indeed are valid...

Is there something I'm missing?

Ok you say you have installed an MPEG2 codec, which one?
It may work with most files, but some codecs don't understand the format you are trying to import which is why I suggest you try the codec I have linked to. It is highly compatible with TMPG and will decode most MPEG2 files and is particularly good with VOBS.

If in the event it still doesn't work the try demuxing your files first with the MPEG tools.

I'm using the codecs you've linked to and I'm gonna try to demuxing the files as soon as I can. (Not at home for the moment).
I'll let you know...

No problems in demuxing the files. However, I can still not use the created files to make a vcd for example. I get invalid file bot if I try to encode the m2v file or the new mpg file...

I had the same problem and it turned out to be Window file permission problem for me. Make sure it is the same Window user that DVD2AVI the VOBs and TMPGEnc the d2v or avi files.

My problem was I logged in as user1 and created vcd.d2v using DVD2AVI, and then when I logged off and logged in as user2 and tried to open the vcd.d2v in TMPGEnc, I got this file not supported problem.

While you login, just re-do the DVD2AVI part and TMPGEnc should read the .d2v no problem.

I have now checked up on this recorder and from everything I have read and asked in multiple forums the conclusion is that the LiteOn 5005 files cannot generally be edited in TMPGEnc. DVD Author ok, but not TMPEnc.
LiteOn has their own structure within the vob's that are not standard according to several persons.

Therefore I have exchanged my recorder but I'd thought I'd write this to inform others with the same problems.

The most compatible recorder brands from a editing-in-a-computer point of view, is sony and jvc from what I have read.

I bought a Sony RDR-GX300 and it works perfectly.
TMPGEnc has no problems whatsoever with the vobs
produced by the GX300.
GREEEEAAT!

When I try opening a couple particular avi files, I got an error about parsing. I get something similar with virtualdub, says no dvsd decoder found. But gspot indicates that I do have several DV codecs installed. These avi's are created from my studio 8 program. Whats going on?

I tried converting to type 2 DV, but the program said it is not type 1 (must already be type 2). These files play in realone and windows. I can also open avis in tmpgenc that were downloaded from web.

Try raising the priority of the 'Open DML file reader' in the VFAPI plugins until it is top of the list.

I'm having a bit of a problem with a couple of my .avi files, dunno what to do. Basically some of my video files that have previously worked have suddenly stopped working and are registering as having a size of 0 bytes, this has so far happened to four of my files with apparently no remedy insight thought i'd check out if anybody had heard of the problem or the solution

Are we talking about the source files or the output files that are 0kb. If it's the source files where did you obtain them from and what do you mean registering, do you mean in windows or TMPG?

If windows is telling you they are 0KB have you tried letting windows scan your HDD for errors?
If windows says these AVI's are 0KB then I would tend to believe it.

Dear All,

After my two mpeg files are merged together to have a single video file by using tmpgenc software, I find that the audio and the video are not synchronous but the audio lag behind for about 5 seconds, Why? Kindly please give me solution, many thanks

Regards,
Simon

Let me guess: Your two Files are from SVCD, right?

Hello,

I have just downloaded the trial version of TMGPEnc Express and I am having problems at the very first stage of use:

When I (successfully) import an AVI into a new project it plays the audio at half-speed although the video is fine. You can also hear a constant high-pitch whistle indicating the the audio sample speed has been reduced. I must stress that this is before I have performed *any* work on the file. I have tried changing various options in the program, but with no effect.

The same AVI plays fine in Media Player and also other competitive encoding and authoring products. Can anyone tell me what the problem could be?

Thanks,
Andy

You have an AVI with VBR-Audio which TMPGEnc can't handle propperly.
Covert the Audio to WAV first by using VirtualDubMOD and Open the WAV as Audio-Source in TMPGEnc.

B_Racer - many thanks for the suggestion, but I won't try it - simply because I have over 50 tapes to transfer and if I can't use the native features of Xpress without going through another 3rd party tool then it's going to take years. I'm going to try another product. EditStudio from PureMotion is looking good at the moment. Their support is absolutely first class.

Thanks again,
Andy

I am using TMPGEnc Express 3 to recompress .vob files. The problem I am having is that the director's track is encoding by default.

I can always use DVD2AVI to do this and add a process. But I would rather do it right in TMPGEnc if it can be done.

Does anyone know how to choose which audio track will be encoded from a .vob source?

Thank you,

Mike

can someone explain in layman terms how to split a movie to go onto 2 cds it is a mpeg

TMPGEnc: File | MPEG Tool | Merge & Cut | Add your mpeg file. Then double click the mpeg file and select the time range that you want to cut, put ouput file name, and then click Run. If you want to burn the output file as VCDs make sure the Type is selected as MPEG-1 VCD, not MPEG-1 automatic.

How can this encoder be offered for free if each copy has a $2.50 royalty due on it to the MPEG LA? Can I create an MPEG 2 player as freeware? Is there some special arrangement with MPEG LA?

Any software can offer MPEG2 encoding as long as it is for a limited period only.
TMPG fully complies with this law and offers only 30 days trial use of the MPEG2 encoding feature.
TMPG plus offers this feature for 14 days.

I am trying to make a movie fit on 1 cd 827,355 adjusted bitrate was told to do this can some one plz tell me how to do this Start to finish

You can try this free Java bitrate calculator.

http://www.videohelp.com/calc.htm

I think you should select "DivX" for Type at the top right. For CDs, select how much MB your CD-R has. Get your movie's time (if you have multiple movies, add them all together) and then add about 5 minutes more to it to ensure it fits. At the bottom where it says Calculated Bitrate, record that number. In TMPGEnc, select Constant Bitrate and then below that, put in your bitrate you just got.

There is an easier way.
827,355 is about 808 MB.
You can easily overburn this on to an 80 min disk.
Most disks will allow at least 823MB of overburn.

Use Nero and in the preferences enable the overburning feature then just burn the disk as normal.
Nero will warn you that the file is larger than the capacity of the disk and will offer overburning. Just accept and continue.

sorry my mistake 867,355 is the size which will not work with overburn

You have another option to reduce the size which may allow you to overburn.
Simply re-encode the audio only to 128 kb/s rather than 224kb/s and then mux with your video.
This should reduce the size enough.

i am a newb who has read to iam blue in the face yet i have no idea what you mean or how to do

what he means is to split the movie to 2 streams (audio & video) and re-encode the audio to a smaller bitrate (128kbit) which will reduce the size than join the encoded audio back to the video and it should be small enough to fit

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