I have used ASFTools to convert an asf file to avi. The avi file plays correctly, but when I use TMPGEnc to convert it to mpg the resulting file contains quite a few 'pops' or glitches. Not quite sure how to explain the errors, but I guess pop is the best way.

Also not sure if it's an ASFTools problem, or TMPGEnc problem, but don't think it's and ASFTool problem as the avi plays without the glitches in WMP ... both classic and 9.0 ... an Power DVD. The original asf also play without problems.

Any suggestions for correcting this is appreciated. (W2K, 1 gig memory, PlexWriter cd-r).

lorac

TMPG will encode ASF directly. You may need to raise the priority of the 'directshow file reader' in the VFAPI plugins to 2. If not then you can use VirtualDub14c-asf to frameserve the file to TMPG.

I've tried what you suggest and it does not encode the audio. Audio starts but then stops in both Windows Media Playr Classic and 9.0.
The GSpot info is as follows ...
The audio src is: WMAudioV2
audio path : (S) --> ASF ACM Handler --> Windows Media Audio Decoder --> MatrixMixer --> (R)
stream type: video/x-ms-asf
video src type: MP43
audio src: WMAudioV2

The priority of the 'directshow file reader' is set in the VFAPI plugins to 2. I also get the problem of big chunks of blocks in some files as mentioned in another post, and that is with directshow set to 2.

I also think I tried VDub and it did not like the files! Also tried VDub 1.3 with the same results.

The asf to avi conversion works, but then I have the problem of the "popping" sounds. Video and audio is so complicated and there are so many different formats in use. Each file is different and needs to be addressed with different tools ... just like life, it is not simple.

lorac

Did you use VirtualDub14c-asf?
This is a special version for ASF files, sometimes though it won't work with certain ASF files, usually ones that are corrupt in some way.

Also it is well known that media player 9 interferes and causes a lot of problems with Directshow related sources in programs such as TMPG, and other software.
My advice would be to get rid of it if you can and stick to version 8. You will find posts relating to this on this BBS.

Also you may want to try installing the hacked MS MPEG4 1,2,3 codec.
Microsoft has placed restrictions in the current versions of the MS MPEG4 (AKA ASF)codec as they do not want it used in third party programs which may prevent certain programs other than Windows media player from using it correctly causing compression errors.

You can find it here:
http://www.undercut.org/msmpeg4/

There is a way around the microsoft restrictions. I noticed my tmpgenc won't even show WMV ASF files when browsing for a source. Since ASF is encoded using mpeg-4, I simply rename the ASF giving it a MPG extention. It worked for me.

>The audio src is: WMAudioV2

you need the hacked microsoft v2 codecs as ashy has suggested above

i'd also get the hacked microsoft v3 codecs, just for good measure, you dont need v3 to encode the video you have but it my come in handy for later use, i know i needed both codecs every now and then

Ok. I will try all that you have suggested. I cannot believe how many codecs I have installed lately. My computer is just about ready to throw up it's hands and say "enough". maybe I should start over.

carol

>Did you use VirtualDub14c-asf?
>This is a special version for ASF files

No, I have Vdub 1.3 and 1.4.13 installed. Tried both and neither would recognize the asf or avi file.

I find that if I use any features in ASFTools other than the "convert" function it gives me corrupted files. Still waiting to hear back from them on that issue.

>Also it is well known that media player 9 interferes and causes a lot of ...>My advice would be to get rid of it if you can and stick to version 8. You will find posts relating to this on this BBS.

I've looked thru the forum for references to WMP 8 and also searched online but I find that WMP goes from 7.1 to 9. Seems that 8 came with XP, but I cannot find it on the web. I should tell you that my OS is W2K. I have WMP Classic and 9X installed. Also have Power DVD.

Ok, so I'm going back to see if the file will play in Power DVD. Think I will have to re-do the file as I deleted the versions that play with the audio skips.

carol

>I've looked thru the forum for references to WMP 8 and also searched online but I find that WMP goes from 7.1 to 9. Seems that 8 came with XP, but I cannot find it on the web. I should tell you that my OS is W2K. I have WMP Classic and 9X installed. Also have Power DVD.

OIC...

ashy, what is oic?

Anyway, the damn file ... good thing it's only 1:44 minutes. I've removed all codecs; I've installed the Nemo pack and tried the file again. What happens now is the file plays to 1:11 and then the sound cuts out. Before it was skipping frames from about 25 seconds in.

I was reading that there are problems with DIVX 5.2 and am wondering if that has been fixed? The problematic symptoms as described in the literature appeares to be what I'm experiencing with this file. I've also checked some of my other files and they have tiny glitches, but not to the extent of this file.

Here is the file info from gspot.

Stream Type: AVI and Interleave: not supported (what ???)
video: MP43 s-mpeg4 ver 3
audio: divx 32 kb/s 16 ch stereo Fs 22050 hz

So why would the audio be fine for 1:11 minutes and then drop out?

This file is driving me crazy, but once the problem is solved them maybe the others will work without any glitches .... one can only hope.

Thanks for your time

Carol

Install FFDSHOW and make sure you configure it to decode all MPEG4 coded files.

P.S.
OIC = OH I see

Whenever I use Merge & Cut to, say, remove the commercials leading into and at the end of a television show, no matter how precise the cuts look while I'm doing them, after the file is multiplexed, there usually (but not always) seems to be a split second that the edit let slip by. What I mean by that is, after the end of the television show, where the cut is supposed to be, there usually seems to be an extra split second of the commercial I could have sworn I cut. I'll even go back, try to cut an extra couple of tenths of a second off the end and it'll still be there.

Any particular reason for this behavior and is there any way to get around it?

Thanks.

This is because MPEGs aren't really maent to be edited. MPEGs can only be cut at I-frames therefore TMPG will shift the cut to the neaest I frame.

If you wish to cut on a frame that isn't an I frame then you will need frame accurate editor such as MPEG2VCR. MPEG2VCR will re-encode the GOP where the intended frame cut is.

Thanks for the insight. Do AVIs work any differently? Are they better to cut? Thank you.

AVI's are a little bit different but the same basic principle. AVI's use keyframes so your cut will not be exact if you cut between keyframes.

If you are looking to cut mpeg's exact, you can use tmpgenc "force picture type" in the advanced tab, to insert an I frame exactly where you want to cut.

>Whenever I use Merge & Cut to, say, remove the commercials leading into and at the end of a television show, no matter how precise the cuts look while I'm doing them, after the file is multiplexed, there usually (but not always) seems to be a split second that the edit let slip by. What I mean by that is, after the end of the television show, where the cut is supposed to be, there usually seems to be an extra split second of the commercial I could have sworn I cut. I'll even go back, try to cut an extra couple of tenths of a second off the end and it'll still be there.
>
>Any particular reason for this behavior and is there any way to get around it?
>
>Thanks.
>try renaming the file to ".mpv", then you can cut in "source range" section to an exact frame. tt

I have converted an avi file to mpg1 in order to burn with Nero but the file is too large to fit on one cd and I can't figure out how to cut it into two files. Any idea on how to do this? Thanks for your help.

>Any idea on how to do this?

use merge and cut

goto file>mpeg tools> add (the vid you want to cut)>double click on the file and hey presto

You say you converted to mpeg-1 "in order to burn with nero". I know you probably already know you can burn an AVI to a data cd. so I'll assume you are trying to burn a video CD. IF, and only IF you are burning a video CD, your mpeg can be 800meg for a 700mb cd. You can't just burn a data cd with an mpeg-1 on it unless it's under 700mb(or whatever size Cd you have). This is because the video cd format does not use that extra 100 meg for error correction, like a data cd does.

It's best to split your AVI's so that they are under one hour, 19min using virtualdub. Then use tmpgenc to encode the 2 files into mpeg-1 format. Do it that way, and you'll never end up with an mpeg that has to be split. It's much easier to cut an AVI ahead of time, so you don't have to mess with cutting an MPEG. Also, cutting an MPEG can sometimes render it non-compliant for video CD.

Cut your AVI's so that they are under 1 hour, 19 min before converting to MPEG!

>Also, cutting an MPEG can sometimes render it non-compliant for video CD.

y would it go non-compliant if you set to to mpeg-1 vcd or mpeg supervcd, it would only go non-compliant if you told it too

dont confuse ppl

>y would it go non-compliant if you set to to mpeg-1 vcd or mpeg supervcd, it >would only go non-compliant if you told it too

>my previous post should read as follows:

why would the video turn non-compliant if youve set it to mpeg-1 vcd or mpeg-2 supervcd, it would only go non-compliant if you told it too

Hi
I use DVIO to capture video (without any frame dropped) from my camcorder. It is DV type 2 AVI file. But Tmpg 2.59 cannot open it. The one, captured by Video capture from Media Studio Pro (with frame dropped), works fine with Tmpg. How can I make the one from DVIO work with Tmpg?
Thanks a lot.
Ken

Try raising the priority of the 'Directshow file reader' or the 'AVI(open DML) reader to 2.
Also you could try running it through Canopus file converter:
http://www.canopus.com/US/products/DV_file_converter/pm_dv_file_converter.asp

"Read error occured at address 00042F40 of module TMPGEnc.exe with 20656850"

Following a tutroial, I extracted AC3 audio with VirtualDub, converted it with AC3 Decoder to PCM .wav, then attempted to use TMPGEnc Plus to re-code them back together. I get error above.

Any ideas?

You don't need to extract it to a wav first.
Just install the filter below and then load your AVI which contains Ac3 audio into TMPG.
http://fcchandler.home.comcast.net/AC3ACM/index.html

I am having problems with avi files. When I load them in to the video source, all I get is the sound files. I am not able to load the file into the video source. What do I need to do to get it right?

>What do I need to do to get it right?

codecs

d/l 'g-spot' to determine what codec you need

I'm 58% into a TMPGEnc Plus VBR encode to MPEG-2 and my PC (2.4 GHz Dell/656 MB memory) has almost crawled to a stop. The program is a 97 min self-contained file from Media 100. I aborted a previous attempt thinking the drive I was writing to was too full, but that is not the case now. When I bailed on the first go-around, the PC remained slow as molasses with nothing running until I rebooted. I'm not very PC savvy, so I'm hoping someone here can help. I've successfully encoded even longer programs with TMPGEnc, but at the current rate it could be weeks before this baby is born. I'm suspecting a memory management issue but I really don't have a clue.

I'm 58% into a TMPGEnc Plus VBR encode to MPEG-2 and my PC (2.4 GHz Dell/656 MB memory) has almost crawled to a stop. The program is a 97 min self-contained file from Media 100. I aborted a previous attempt thinking the drive I was writing to was too full, but that is not the case now. When I bailed on the first go-around, the PC remained slow as molasses with nothing running until I rebooted. I'm not very PC savvy, so I'm hoping someone here can help. I've successfully encoded even longer programs with TMPGEnc, but at the current rate it could be weeks before this baby is born. I'm suspecting a memory management issue but I really don't have a clue.

What is it an AVI?
Raise the priority of the 'directshow file reader' in the 'VFAPI plugins' to 2, see if that helps.

I am not sure what exactly is screwed up, but I am having the common problem of trying to convert an .avi and the audio is read improperly. I have used an audio splitting program to make it into a separate file, but now I cant figure out how to synch the audio with the video. There IS a button to adjust the synch in TMPGEnc, but it doesnt actually play the video. So I cant be sure I'm matching up properly.
I've tried once and the movie came out looking like a Kung Fu movie.
How is this normally handled?

>How is this normally handled?

have you tried converting the audio to wav?? tmpge doesnt like compressed audio

and also, is the original video in sync?

Constantly hearing about the audio sync problems and most of the "answers" only complicate the matter. Most audio sync problems are caused by VBR audio or an error in the video stream.

I NEVER have audio sync problems with my outputted files and here's why:

Just open the AVI in virtualdub ESPECIALLY if it has variable bitrate audio.
scan the video stream for errors. DELETE the error parts of the video and save the AVI with NO sound.

Then, extract the audio to an uncompressed WAV and use that wav as your audio input in tmpgenc.

Use the silent, error-free avi as your video input.

There ya go. no audio sync problems due to video stream errors or due to variable bitrate.

>Constantly hearing about the audio sync problems and most of the "answers" >only complicate the matter. Most audio sync problems are caused by VBR audio >or an error in the video stream.

>I NEVER have audio sync problems with my outputted files and here's why:

>Just open the AVI in virtualdub ESPECIALLY if it has variable bitrate audio.
>scan the video stream for errors. DELETE the error parts of the video and >save the AVI with NO sound.

>Then, extract the audio to an uncompressed WAV and use that wav as your audio >input in tmpgenc.

>Use the silent, error-free avi as your video input.

>There ya go. no audio sync problems due to video stream errors or due to >variable bitrate.

lol, other ppl complicate matters......ok

>Just open the AVI in virtualdub ESPECIALLY if it has variable bitrate audio.
>scan the video stream for errors. DELETE the error parts of the video and save the AVI with NO sound.

What button(s) on Virtual Dub do you use for this?

I think he means mask the bad frames not actually delete them.
However this may work in some cases, but not all.
Not all Sync problems are because of corrupt or dropped frames.

Some difficult A/V sync problems like drifting sync are a little more complicated, but can usually be corrected by matching the length of the Video with the audio.

Video sync-ing is NOT a simple matter and IS sometimes quite complicated and can be difficult to do especially if you haven't done it before, so while it may be OK for you to say it's not complicated this does depend on the person doing it.

if urve downloaded the movie you most probably have corrupted frames if the sync is drifting out half way through the movie or whatever, you CANNOT (ive never been able to) mask these frames they must be cut out 'divfix' is prefect for this (google search for it)

and also 9 times outta 10 vbr audio must be converted to wav for tmpge to recognise it properly

if ur looking for a simple yet efective program to convert your audio to wav, download avi2vcd-google search it (dont use it to create vcds cause it sux) but it has a very useful audio decompressor included in the package you download (i swear by avi2vcd's audio decompressor, simple yet very very effective, easy to use)

>if urve downloaded the movie you most probably have corrupted frames if the sync is drifting out half way through the movie or whatever, you CANNOT (ive never been able to) mask these frames they must be cut out 'divfix' is prefect for this (google search for it)

What do you mean 'you CANNOT'?

Virtualdub will automatically mask any bad frames it finds when the file is scanned.
If it finds a corrupt frame it will simply replace that frame with a duplicate of the last good one then all you need to do is resave the AVI using the direct stream copy options.
I have done this on several occasions with AVI's including DIVX and never had a problem with it not working.

>What do you mean 'you CANNOT'?

i mean, whenever ive tried to mask because the file went outta sync, it wouldnt work, out of sync problem remained or drifted even more.(maybe i have a shit release of vdub)

ive only had luck with re-syncing by cutting bad frames out, which works a treat with 'divfix', seeing theres usually only a few frames corupted most of the time its not even that noticable when their cut.

Sync issues are usually related to frames missing because they have some how become corrupted during the encoding process maybe because of a read error from the source such as dirt on a DVD.
The audio usually drifts after a glitch is encountered in the file. The easiest way is to just cut after the glitch and then resync the second part with Virtualdub and then join the 2 pieces back together.

Masking corrupt frames won't usually make any difference to the sync. It will still be out of sync.
As for DIVXfix I don't think it actually cuts any frames out as this WOULD desync the file. It simply unfreezes corrupt frames so the don't become async with the audio however this won't work where frames are missing or have been dropped.

I've been using tmpgenc for a couple of days now, and I've been really happy with the program. Basically what I've been doing is separating AVI files into AVI and WAV with Virtualdub, encoding them into M2V and MP2, and then authoring in DVD-lab. Even though I'm a complete newbie to video editing and conversion, I've been doing fine, until now. Suddenly TMPGenc is giving me almost nothing but trouble. The avi+wav I'm trying to encode right now I've tried literally more than forty times. If I was getting the same error message, or error messages at the same places I'd assume there was something wrong with the video, but I get different errors every time (invalid pointer operations, disk write errors, sometimes no error message at all) and at different points in the encoding process. And, what's almost most infuriating of all, sometimes the encoding actually completes! So I know that it's possible to actually get the movies encoded, but I have to keep trying and trying and trying. The files I'm working on right now are small - the original AVIs are about 90 MB - but what should've taken about 20 minutes per file is actually taking several hours, and I have to be present all the time to restart the process. What has gone wrong? TMPGenc used to be such a reliable program, but now nothing is helping. I restart the program, I reboot the computer, I uninstall and reinstall - nothing helps! Please help me get back the reliable tmpgenc I used to know!

I take these are AVI's. Maybe using the XVID codec which is pretty unpredictable at the best of times with TMPG.

My advice is to download the latest FFDSHOW.
Enable it to decode all AVI's and MPEGs then raise the priority of the 'Directshow file reader' to 2 in the VFAPI plugins. Make sure all others are at a lower priority.

Sorry correction, the line above should have read:
>I take it these AVI's are maybe using the XVID codec which is pretty unpredictable at the best of times with TMPG.

I recently tried to convert a DivX encoded AVI to Mpeg2 and got a read error message. Now, when I try to encode ANYTHING I get a read error message (even when trying to re-encode mpegs). I've tried uninstalling and re-installing. I've tried updating. Nothing seems to work. The only way I can get any MPEG2 encoding done is by downloading the freeware trial version, which oddly enough, seems to work.

i have a 700mb avi file. i encoded video & audio separately. i encoded video to m2v(svcd) & ac-3 audio to dolby surround. then i multiplex them to mpg. the final size would be 1.3gb. when i try to cut them into half so can fit into 2 cd-r using merge & cut it won't let me. i can only cut it on encoded m2v file. anyone got any idea?

TMPG will not cut MPEGs with Ac3 audio. You will need to use a program called MME.exe which comes contained in folder which is a TMPG MPEG2 codec.
http://www.marumo.ne.jp/mpeg2/

It would be great if whoever has that website would do an english version...

thanks ashy. i'm using head3ache to convert the audio (ac3) to dolby surround but not with tmpgenc.