From past experiences, I know that if an audio and video files do not have matching frame counts, TMPGEnc would disappear at 99%. So how do I know if the frames for audio and video are the same? Usually, I go to Source Range and then move the End Marker a bit before the end of the video. I switch on the audio readings and then click the fast forward button. I set the End Marker whenever there is a flat green line. But just now, I converted a test clip. I selected the last few seconds of the video. I also used the audio readings as well. The very last frame had no green lines. It was just gray. But the visual was still there. Despite that, it still converted fine with no problems. So is there a way to find out accurately if TMPGEnc would disappear at the last minute?

Also, I was wondering what the difference was between normal conversion and the option "Output MPG"?

Well I can't say I have ever had that problem which is a strange one at that.

It's not necessary to have the same length of Audio as Video and shouldn't even affect the encoding and I don't actually think your problem is even related to the audio and is probably something else.

If you set the source range to the end of the film it will encode up to that point regardless whether there is audio present or not.
If it did matter if there was audio present then I wouldn't be able to encode Video elementry streams.

If I were you I would check your config in TMPG and maybe have a look at the kind of files you are encoding.

If these are encodings from AVI's downloaded from the net then I'm not surprised you have problems because more often than not they are dodgy with corrupted indexes.
You will never get this problem with a good clean source such as a real DVD rip using something like DVD2AVI.

>Also, I was wondering what the difference was between normal conversion and the option "Output MPG"?

No difference really except this will show the shutdown option in the main window.

No it happened again! :( As I said earlier, I did a test clip of converting the last few seconds to MPEG. TMPGEnc did not disappear. But when I converted the entire thing without Source Range, it disappeared at 99%! :( This extra frustrating because my computer is so slow at converting. :( Is there a way to solve this problem? I think the AVI was a TV rip and then people subtitled it and had it up for Bittorrent.

Like I said you likely will get problems with downloaded crap off the net.

Have you tried raising the Directshow reader priority in the VFAPI plugins and installing FFDSHOW?
Maybe you could try re-idexing the AVI with Virtualdub.
When opening an AVI with Virtual dub make sur you check the box which says 'Pop up extended open options' then check 'Re-derive keyframe flags'

You can the either re-save it using the direct stream copy option or frame serve it to TMPG.

I already have FFDSHOW. Where do I find the "Pop up extended open options"?

Run Virtualdub then when you click 'Open video file' to load your AVI there will be a check box.

So what does that function really do to the AVI? Thanks for your help!

hello - regarding the environment/cpu setting 'save analyzing result of
multipass vbr to cache" - What gets saved? Where is it saved? How does it
help.
Thanks,
Dave

I belive this Option will either save the Information from the First Pass of 2-Pass VBR to the Cache or to your Hard disk so if you do not have a Lot of Disk Space you should Probably save it to your Cache but I think this will Take a Little Longer in the encodeing time, and saveing to your Hard drive is a Little Faster...The First Pass Info gets automaticly deleted after encodeing has Finnished.....Cheers

I look in c: emp and I can see files vbr_3.tmp and vbr_4.
These files are "both in use" (I have an encode running)
I have a checkmark in 'save analyzing result of
multipass vbr to cache'
These seem to be the items, but these are produced whether or not I have
a checkmark there.
What is "cache" isn't that the same as disk space?

Dave

Using this package? Thank you

What is Jepg2000??? Do you mean some form of Mjpeg??

No. Jpeg 2000 is the new jpeg format for static images.

Are you trying to convert JPEG2000 to a movie?

If you are then convert the JPEG2000 into bitmaps. Load the bitmaps into TMPGEnc and encode.

If you are just trying to view them, then TMPGEnc won't help you any. You need to download a special plug-in or viewwer application to view the images.

For those you don't know, JPEG2000 was released a few years ago and from what I heard it has much better compression than standard JPEG. It is based on wavelet compression. One of the founders of JPEG2000 was on the televison show "The ScreenSavers" on the station TechTV a couple years ago. I have not heard about it since.

Video Guy

Jepg2000 was released in 1989 from NTHU in Trondheim Norway. This is the type of com. they use in digital cinemas in 2006.

I am attempting to turn a movie into a VCD. I loaded the movie, the setting to VideoCD (NTSCFilm) and started the process. 12 hours later the file was over 4 times the original, no sound, seemingly weaker quality, and after the end of the movie it continued to run for another 3 hours (extended well beyond where the original movie ends). Can anyone tell me what I did wrong? I used Gspot to confirm things (which is VideoCD (NTSCFilm)), but I was unaware that I needed to do anything else to it (the tutorial I read made no mention of anything else). Can anyone enlighten me on what I did wrong? I used WinDVD to see if the file was ok, but, like I said, has all the symptoms I mentioned above, and is almost 4 gigs in size (so not likely to fit on less than 4 cds). Any help would be GREATLY appreciated!

A full length movie can't fit on 1 VCD.

You say it is 4 times bigger. This sounds correct if your source is MPEG-4 (Divx, Xvid, etc) and you are converting to MPEG-1. MPEG-4 is much more efficient so you can fit the full movie on 1 cd.

It sounds like you are trying to convert a Divx file (perhaps one you downloaded since you are having sounds problems and the 23.97 (film) frames per second).

If you want it on one disc then buy the DVD!!


Video Guy

The size of the original is 690mb, the new version is 3.9 gigs. Not even 4 cds could hold that. As well, the movie doesn't end at its appointed time...it continues on for 3 hours after that. No sound at any point and extended 3 hours (which is two times the size of the movie; only an hour and a half movie). So, I am thinking there is a problem with the settings.

I don't mind splitting it between two cds, but over 4 cds with no sound?! That is why I am asking if I did something incorrectly. Which I obviously did. I read a bunch of threads and TMPGEnc is only suppose to double the size of the file (which I knew and accepted), which is why I know there is a problem.

According to Gspot, some of the specifics of this movie include:
type: OpenDML AVI
FPS: 23.97
running time: 01:40:24 (though, the new mpeg that TMPGEnc made is 04:36:00)

Any advice on how to make this convert properly would be appreciated.

The Extra Amount of Blank Video at the end Can be edited out useing the "Merge & Cut" and if you use the Source Range and set the Beginning and end Piont of the file it should not do that anymore...If you are Makeing a Standard VCD the File size should be about 10mb per Minute of Video...And the Reason why you did not get any audio is Probably because the audio in your AVI file is of a Format that Tmpgenc Can not Natively Decode, Like either AC3 or VBR Mp3...You should Extract the audio from your AVI file to WAV format and use the Wav file as the Audio source in Tmpgenc, You can use Virtual Dub for this But I find it easier to use a Little Utility called "Decompress.exe" which will turn your AVI file with Compressed audio into an AVI with Uncompressed audio which Tmpgenc will Happily encode....Good Luck

how long is your movie (in minutes).
Did you choose an svcd template or vcd ?
A vcd can only hold 80 minutes or so, because the bitrate is fixed.
SVCD bitrate is variable, so a 50 minute movie *may* fix on
an svcd, or may not. It depends what the average bitrate of the SVCD is.

If the encode seems to going "off the end", it could be a problem with
the audio. Are you encoding a AVI? If so, download virtyaldub, open the
avi and set audio to "direct stream copy" and select file/sav wav.
If the wav is VBR and virtualdub will tell you, tmpgenc has problems
with it, and you have to use something else to convert it eith to an
uncpmpressed WAV file, of a CBR mp3.
Dave

There is No such a thing as VBR Wav...

"there's no such things as a vbr wav"
Not strictly speaking, no, but vitualdub will save the vbr mp3 with a
WAV header, and it gives it a WAV file name.

I got a SVCD movie with nearly double height and half width frame after TMPGEnc-ing my DV(avi) movie. And the left edge of frame is squeezed. Can anyone tell me how to sovle this problem? My DV(avi) source is 720x480. SVCD is set to 480x480 NTSC. The DV(avi) file was captured from JVC DV using MGI StudioWave.

You need to play back the SVCD with a player that will adjust the aspect ratio. Sometimes windows media player will play it back in 480X480 (square) resulting in tall skinny people, the effect you described. If you play it back using DVD software, like WinDVD or PowerDVD, or your home player it will adjust the aspect ratio making it 4:3 instead of 1:1.

When you encode DV to SVCD make sure you select "Full Screen", If you choose "Center" you will loose the edges.


Video Guy

Thank you Video Guy. I will try again the day afer tomorrow.

I plan on using TMPGEnc DVD Author and would like to know if there is an option to create a continuous play DVD.

There are some other programs that do this, listed in this thread...

http://www.dvdrhelp.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=174260&highlight=continuous+play

but I am really hoping TMPGEnc DVD Author has this option as well.

Menu Display Settings -> General -> Action to take after all tracks have been played

What will you find there? Yeah, a Loop Mode! ;)

Great! Thanks for the reply B_Racer

I have certain mpeg1(*.mpg) files recorded in (640x480) output for PAL tv, recorded via sony cybershot.I woud like to improve the brightness in someof them and save them,woud be burning them to a VCD (PAL).I have nero 5.5 and pixela's Imagemixer1.5.1,Imagemi..can only crop the file but has no movie enhancement features and it can also change the files to VCD(*.dat) format.
Will TMPEencd improve the brightness ? I could then save it in my image mixer folder
and burn the files.I have Win98SE and also Direct X9.0b,read somewhere on this BB that direct X9.0b caused problems.Please help
Thank you
Ak.

I don't think you'll be playing those files on any TV if you intend to use a DVD player.
640x480 is not an accepted standard for VCD,SVCD or DVD, so you will have to re-encode to the right format first.

As for the answer to your question:

Load your file then in the main window of TMPG click the 'Setting' button then click the 'Advanced' tab and finally double click the 'Simple color correction' filter.

Just installed the above version. Went to encode and got the following error:

"Read error occurred at address 00012F40 of module 'TMPGEnc.exe' with 505C3A3F."

Any ideas/suggestions to remedy?

TIA

OK, weird thing. Loaded an older version (2.512.52.161) and it works. Why won't the newest version? Using WinXP if it matters.

I get the same problem, converting a DIVX_5.11 file to NTSC DVD format.
Although the History mentions this problem was fixed some versions ago,
it still remains. I've tried setting aside a >4GB NTFS temp directory
under Tools->Environment but that didn't help...though I don't think
file size is a problem since the original clip is only 1GB.

Please can anyone tell me how to download the older versions such as
2.512.52.161 ? I can't find it in the downloads page.

I was wondering if there was any way to calculate the size of the output MPEG? The original AVI is 223.5MB and I was thinking of putting 3 to each CD-R (700MB/80min). So far, I am encoding it all at SVCD resolution have a quality of 70%. I was wondering if it was possible to do at least 1 episode at 80%? Or maybe 75%?

First off, if you choose to set the quality of the mpeg in % rather than a actual bitrate this will make calculating harder. Secondly a VCD at standard bitrate (1150kbps) will allow u to put 80mins of movie on 1 cd, a SVCD at standard bitrate (2520kbps) will allow you to put 40 mins of movie on 1 cd. Finally if you have a avi of 200 odd mb you will be unable to determin how many of these file will fit on a cd after converting to VCD or SVCD. You will need to know the length of the movie, not the size, size is only relevant to the quality of the movie and not how many you can fit on a cd, in MPEG form that is...

Well, I'm making a custom VCD. It is resolution 480x480 only it is MPEG1, VCD format. The bitrate is Constant Quality. The original AVI file is about 24 minutes long.

Get yourself a Bitrate calculator it will tell you what bitrate to use for the length of a Movie so it turns out a certain Size..But with Constant Quality there is no reliable way to determine File size....

Hello, i am wondering what the "output yuv data as basic ycbci not ccir601" option is for or rather what it does under special setting in the matrix tab. Also what is best to use for dvd default or mpeg standard ?.

Do I need to use the "output bitstream for edit (closed gop)" for dvd mpegs.

I am remuxing tmpgs mpeg2 streams back into a dvd using ifoedit and was just wondering what settings are best.

p.s i prefer to encode rather than transcode.

>Hello, i am wondering what the "output yuv data as basic ycbci not ccir601" option is for or rather what it does under special setting in the matrix tab

Don't bother with this setting. It is to set the output color space level for your MPEG. YCBCI is basically for monitors and CCIR601 is the standard color space for TV.

>Also what is best to use for dvd default or mpeg standard ?
MPEG standard.

>Do I need to use the "output bitstream for edit (closed gop)" for dvd mpegs
No, it is not advisable to do so either unless you are creating multiangle DVD's.

>I am remuxing tmpgs mpeg2 streams back into a dvd using ifoedit and was just wondering what settings are best.

You cannot do this properly with IFOedit, it doesn't work unless you re-encode with REMPEG. If you try it with any other encoder it will simply produce jerky playback.

If you want to merge re-encoded MPEGs with the original menus and extras then you will have to build the VOBS first with IFOedit then use IFOupdate to merge them back with the rest of the VOBs.

Can't load MPEG2, 720x480x48K, files created by ATI Radeon 9700 into TMPGEnc.
VCD and SVCD load okay. Probably something in the ATI codecs but can't figure it out.
I've tried using the VFAPI settings in "Options" to no avail.
Sure would like to get these into TMPGEnc again for quick and easy audio normalizing.
TIA

If it's just the audio your normalizing then just import the file into the audio field then remux the output with the original video.

Well Make sure you didn"t use the ATI Format because No Program will decode those Files accept ATI"s MMC because it is a Proprietary Format....

Hi

I am converting Pal AVI Type 1 captured from my Panasonic camcorder via IEEE to a canopus card.

It seems the files are standard PAL ratios 740 x 576 but each time I load the standard DVD template for PAL the aspect ratio in the Settings / Advanced / Video Setting / Source Aspect Ratio selection jumps automatically to 4:3 625 line (Pal 704 x 576)

I tried using this setting but the edges are chopped off in the TV, whereas when I use 740 I get the full picture.

THE REAL PROBLEM is this. When I load a template and save this setting as 625 (PAL), each time I load this template for use with my AVI files the setting above jumps back to the 704x576

I have to manually reset this field with each project, which sort of defeats the purpose of saving a template.

Can anyone explain why?

Cheers

Click "Load" button, so you can go to TMPGEnc's install folder, then "Extra", load "unlock.mcf", then you　can do it.

PAL DV is 720x576 not 740x576.

It is normal for TMPGEnc to select 704 aspect ratio with a 720 clip.

You seem to be confused between aspect ratios and resolution.
quote "the files are standard PAL ratios 740x576"
For instance a SVCD is encoded at 480x480.
This does not imply an aspect ratio of 1:1.
The player will adjust the aspect ratio to 4:3.

The encoder should be set for 720. The DVD template is set for 720 by default.

Make sure that you use the "Full Screen Keep Aspect Ratio" setting.

Video Guy

Firstly PAL DVD is NOT 740x576 it is 720x576 or 704x576, I hope this is just a mistake on your part.

>I have to manually reset this field with each project, which sort of defeats the purpose of saving a template.

When you load a template the source aspect ratio setting is NOT affected.
This setting is source dependent, so it would be pointless to have it set so it didn't change as it wouldn't relate to each different source you load.
It will change according to the movie you load however TMPG doesn't always get it right.

For your source you should be using the 16:9 Display or 4:3 display modes depending on your source (that is if it really is 720x576) however the 4:3 625 line (PAL 704,576) setting will give exacxtly the same results with a 720x576 source.
The output frame size will be 720x576 if you have chosen the DVD template regardless of the input ratio.

Try again with the 4:3 display aspect ratio setting, but this time make sure you have the arrange method set to Full screen (keep aspect ratio).

If you still are not happy with the results then use the 4:3 625 line (PAL)
setting and this should give you a slightly narrower picture with very small black borders left and right and thus minimize the 'Cut off', but in my opinion if your source is 720x576 then this will give your output a slight apspect ratio distortion as it will resize it to 704x576 inside a 720x576 frame.

OOPS, Video guy, you got there just before me, but you have echoed exactly what I have said.

Thks fellas for the replies.

Video Guy, you say that it's normal for TMPGenc to select 704 for a 720 clip (yes, I meant 720 not 740 sorry!)

I guess it keeps reading my clip as 702 (ie 4:3 625 line PAL 704X576) , but when I use this setting my resulting picture gets clipped on the left and right slightly (i guess by the difference of 18 pix)

WHen I force the source aspect ration to 4:3 625 line PAL I get the full width.

Perhaps something is wrong with how I capture the clip but I do that in default modes. I will try the unlock altho I am not sure if it will help, since I CAN change the setting, just that I cannot preserve it each time I load a new project.

By the way I tried using the dvdrhelp tool Batch Lister to try to overcome having to change the setting for each job in a batch, but it doesnt seem to work for me (the resulting batch file generates an error in TMPGenc)

Cheers

Easy to solf problem:

Source is 4:3 625 Line (PAL)
Target is 720x576 and 4:3 Display
Arrange Methode is Center

Why are you trying to compare what you see on your monitor with what you see on a TV?

I wish people would understand what the term overscan is.
99% of all movies or programs you will see on a TV will have part of the sides cut off. This is inherent to ALL TV's.

It is simply a method to make sure that the image fills the screen from edge to edge and to account for slight blooming.
You will always have this on a TV set unless you mess with the controls inside the TV. A monitor does not have this problem because overscan is not needed.

Are the edges chopped off when you play the movie back on your monitor?
Most likely no, which means there is no problem with the encoding and the aspect ratio is right.

But seeing as you are not happy with the way it looks on your TV then I will repeat myself again.
>Use the 4:3 625 line (PAL)setting and this should give you a slightly narrower picture with very small black borders left and right and thus minimize the 'Cut off'.

Just realise that using this setting is slightly distorting your original source aspect ratio because it is being resized to 704x576 instead of 720x576 and adding an 8 pixel margin either side.

i am having the same problem as you
see my previous post
B_Racers solution doesnt work for me.

For crying out loud!
How many times does it have to be said that the source aspect ratio can *NOT* be permanently set using a template.
This setting is a per source setting. Which means it will change to accomodate each input source. All aspects of the template are related to output settings *NOT* input.

If you wish to have the same source aspect ratio for all files you will need to open the .tbe file in note pad and do a search and replace for the following:-

Find: Video.AspectRatio = 1
Replace with: Video.AspectRatio = (replace with number corresponding below)

16:9 PAL = 3
16:9 NTSC = 6
4:3 PAL = 8
4:3 NTSC = 12
4:3 DISPLAY = 13
16:9 DISPLAY = 14
2.11:1 = 15

what version of tmpgenc do you use?
my .tbe files generated by tmpgenc (latest version) are almost unreadable
like this;

ÿ
JOB 020&c TPF027TTMPGEncBatchEncodeList 04List1601
Job.MPEG.Text06 33Job.MPEG.WizardCategoryName06 34Job.MPEG.WizardSubFormatName06 26Job.MPEG.WizardCaption06


while the one generated by Batchlister is completly readable

i know the answer you gave would work but it seems we are using different versions of the program???

Hi Ashy

You are right of course, but a correction in that I AM indeed referring to viewing the files on TV, not on monitor. I recognise that TMPG is reading my source aspect, which appears to be 704. Why this is so I don't know because I capture at standard PAL DV Type 1 presumably at 720 (I capture via Firewire from Panasonic camcorder to Canopus ADVC using Ulead or Winproducer).

Why I noticed the difference was that letting the programme default my source settings (ie 704) when viewing the results on TV, the edges are clipped off. Forcing the source setting to 720 (presumably using the 625line(PAL) as opposed to the default 625line (PAL 704 x 576) my TV shows the full width of the pic.

I think in the past postings there is some confusiona s to what I was saying or what my problem was, or perhaps I didnt communicate it clearer...(sorry, Eng not my first language)

I am still mystified.

Cheers

@Vandaahl

When refering to the .tbe in my previous post I was actually refering to the .tbe that the batch list creator makes not TMPG. You are correct that the .tbe which TMPG makes is unreadable.

@Digger

>Why I noticed the difference was that letting the programme default my source settings (ie 704) when viewing the results on TV, the edges are clipped off. Forcing the source setting to 720 (presumably using the 625line(PAL) as opposed to the default 625line (PAL 704 x 576) my TV shows the full width of the pic.

I know this is confusing, but the 625line (PAL 704 x 576) is the correct setting for a 720x576 source. Your image will use the full 720 pixel width of frame.

Like I said, using the 625line(PAL) setting is merely treating your source as a true 704x576 source and is adjusting it's frame size to 704x576 to accomodate this.

What will result is a 720x576 output, but your image will be resized to 704x576 inside this frame thus squashing your original source by 16 pixels to give two black 8 pixel borders.
You can't see these borders on your TV because they are in the overscan area, but I'm pretty sure you will see them on your monitor.