I read this over at www.DVDRhelp.com...

ULEAD's Field Order A is actually B and vice versa.

The trouble I'm having is that I get video that freezes and then resumes. I've been calling it jerky playback. It only occurs when I encode in TMPGEnc but was not happening with ULEAD's mpeg 2 encoder. TMPGEnc's DVDs (we'll call them that) work fine via WinDVD, though (de-interlaced monitor).

ULEAD's DVDs ran ok in my settop but TMPGEnc's did not.
Tonight, I will try changig field order in TMPGEnc to B, though the source, as far as ULEAD is concerned has been field order A ever since capturing.

This should work because it's the only thing I haven't tried. People here have been telling me to switch field order to B but I was converting my avi in Mediastudio to B, as well. That's why I gave up on fields as being the problem. Every time I sent an avi to TMPGEnc, in all my tests, it was in the reverse field order.

Anybody need a coaster?

If you load your Source File into Tmpgenc useing the WiZarD then Tmpgenc analizes the File for the Correct Field order and sets it accordingly...I have Found it to Be very Accurate with Most Interlaced Material..I have Had Choppy Playback and/or really Bad Combing even when the Field order was Correct and the Artifacts would show Up No Matter what i did accept if I Used a Deinterlace Filter but I would not advise useing it unless as a Last resort or if you are going to Play the Movie on your PC...You Can also Reverse the Field Order of a Mpeg file without re-encodeing the File, You can use tools Like "Pulldown.exe" or "DoPulldown" to reverce the Field order....good Luck

Tried reversing field order... Video still jumps.

I knew it wasn't a field order issue. Field Order trouble has always showed up as flickering horizontal lines in my video. This stuff is just hanging up and resuming every now and then. Like I'm hitting a particularly large pocket of data. I've turned off scene detection because I was afraid its penchant for creating extra I-Frames was flooding parts of my video with higher bitrates. But that wasn't it, either. I need to get a analog output device so I can view my VOB folders on a TV before having to burn another DVD.

So if the NTSC DVD template doesn't work for me, what should I tweak on it, given it's pre-assigned parameters? What's the next thing to try?

If you are Getting Interlace artifacts and useing any Field Order setting still produces Jumpy Playback then use One of the Deinterlace Filters in tmpgenc...This will get Rid of all of the Jumpyness..So Just use the same Template as Normal But use a Deinterlace Filter, Usually "Even Field" or "Odd field" will do Fine....Cheers

Either happened when I hit refresh or when I jumped back to my submission page and then forward again to the main page.

Why did the other guy's post get repeated, too? Maybe it wasn't my fault?

I went to www.DVDHelp.us and downloaded their templates for TMPGEnc. But when I go into the NTSC DVD templates, they were set for 23.976fps and 3:2 pulldown. On the next tab over it said that the movie was to be interlaced, though they were doing a 3:2 on it.

Things looked screwed up enough in it that I'm wondering if somehow my copy of TMPGEnc may be scrambling my settings, somehow.

Does anybody know a program that is "fairly easy to use" that I might be able to compare mpeg2 movies in? ULEAD's mpeg2 encoder works fine on DVD settop, though apparently not as pretty as everybody keeps promising TMPGEnc to be.

Certain Templates will only work properly with certain Files, and This Template was Odviously made for a Progressive 23.976fps Source File..If your Source File is For Instance Interlaced and 29.97fps then that Frame Rate setting with the 3:2 Pulldown will Not work with this File ,You would Then Just change the Frame Rate to 29.97fps the same as your Source Files Framerate....
It is your Source File that Determines what settings you would use to Encode it to a Particular format...If you Post the Specs of your AVI file I can tell you what settings will Work in Tmpgenc...Cheers

I have started using TMPGEnc for joining mpegs. It works but I can`t get the saved clips to run with Win Media Player automatically. The box is greyed out so how do I get Media Player to recognise this format?

Mrs

What do you mean by "The Box is Greyed Out"?? What Box?? If you mean that the File Type is not recognized by your PC or by Media Player you should Just be able to Right click the File and then go to "Properties" and were it says "Opens With" click the "Change" Button and navigate to the Media Player Icon in the List and then click "Apply" then "OK" and then when you double click the File Media Player should automaticly Play it...Media Player natively doesn"t come with a Mpeg2 decoder so it might not play any Mpeg2 files without the Proper Decoders installed, it is Best to use a software DVD Player Like WinDVD or PowerDVD to play Mpeg files with...Cheers

Thanks for the info - problem is that right clicking/properties does not come up with a list of programs. If I double click the file the requester box comes up asking what program do I want to use. Clicking Media Player gets it playing but the box which says `always use this program for viewing this file` is greyed out so I can`t check the box. Every time I want to view a file generated by this joiner I must identify the program required! The files are on my hard drive not on a DVD as I don`t have a DVD player except a stand-alone one.

Well you do not need a DVD Player to Have DVD Player software..DVD Playing software Is Basicly just For Playing Mpeg files but it will also Play any other Format I actually like them better for all files than Media Player...You can also enable File types in media Player assumeing the Type of files you are talking about are .mpg files they should allready be enabled...well good luck

I went to www.DVDHelp.us and downloaded their templates for TMPGEnc. But when I go into the NTSC DVD templates, they were set for 23.976fps and 3:2 pulldown. On the next tab over it said that the movie was to be interlaced, though they were doing a 3:2 on it.

Things looked screwed up enough in it that I'm wondering if somehow my copy of TMPGEnc may be scrambling my settings, somehow.

Does anybody know a program that is "fairly easy to use" that I might be able to compare mpeg2 movies in? ULEAD's mpeg2 encoder works fine on DVD settop, though apparently not as pretty as everybody keeps promising TMPGEnc to be.

Did run this program for a few days,error free,but now I multiplex it,then load it up to convert it,I get this error straight away :
TMPGENC caused an invalid page fault in
module CLAUD.AX at 016f:1c403b9b.
Registers:
EAX=00000000 CS=016f EIP=1c403b9b EFLGS=00010202
EBX=015e0c80 SS=0177 ESP=0273ff40 EBP=0000016d
ECX=00f80778 DS=0177 ESI=00f80778 FS=3f4f
EDX=00f807b8 ES=0177 EDI=00000000 GS=0000
Bytes at CS:EIP:
8b 08 ff 51 0c 89 be 48 0e 00 00 8b 46 60 8b 54
Stack dump:
00000000 00f807b8 0003fc68 1c434364 0000016d 015e0c80 015e0c80 1c41f776 00000001 015e1e80 1c422cac 015e0c80 00001200 00000000 00000000 0003fc68

Downloaded another version but same problem,any help?

The following is an excerpt from the TMPGEnc FAQ:

"TMPGEnc can not read AVI file with DV format.
The file is probably Type-1 DV format. The format is not supported by TMPGEnc. Type-1format has different structure from AVI format. TMPGEnc can not read the format since TMPGEnc does not support DirectShow.
To solve this matter, try to save the captured or edited file as Type-2 DV format, however, there are still chance not to be able to read the file if you are using general IEEE1394 board without codec for VFW."

Is this still true? I noticed some things in the FAQ needed updating...

The links to the download are broken
yust set them to wwww.tmpgenc.net/download_files/TMPGEnc-2.521.58.169-Free.zip
that works.
thanks for a wonderful prgram

dont get the link to work...
just get cannot find server.......

tnx

sfh

each time i convert an avi to mpg2 the movie has no sound , help please :)

Need to know how you're saving the avi from your editor and how you're importing it into TMPGEnc. Give a step by step, then someone can fill in any possible causes of trouble.

i drag n drop avi movie into video source and audio source and hit start , then i sit n pick my nose , the movie turns out ok (into mpg2)but no sound :(
also i was wondering if the avi file being so large would have anything to do with the sound

Have you played the original avi to see if audio is there?
Make sure System stream is checked. It's the last setting towards the bottom right of the main window's screen. Has ES (Video Only), ES (Audio Only), etc... System is on the bottom, it has (Audio+ Video) or something like that. I believe. I don't have it in front of me right now. BUt I believe any settings that say (audio and video) in paranthesis indicate that you wish to include audio with the final mpeg2.

i drag n drop avi movie into video source and audio source and hit start , then i sit n pick my nose , the movie turns out ok (into mpg2)but no sound :(
also i was wondering if the avi file being so large would have anything to do with the sound

yes the avi movie has sound and ive checked the box at the very bottom ,but alas no joy :- (

ive read on the forum that i might need to convert the avi sound into a wav file , how do i find out what sound file is already on avi and how do i go about converting , if anyone got a link to a sound converter (freeware)to wav , please give me link please , seeing its nearly xmas ; )

Yeah, I already read that...

ive read on the forum that i might need to convert the avi sound into a wav file , how do i find out what sound file is already on avi and how do i go about converting , if anyone got a link to a sound converter (freeware)to wav , please give me link please , seeing its nearly xmas ; )

Im sure you Found that you will need something like "Virtual Dub" to extract the audio to WAV....It is freeware and if you look for it you will find it...

I had the very same problem (no sound) when converting avi. I know I am still a newbie kind even I've spent more than fifty hours trying to figure this out in the past week:-(( My solution is giving up TMPGEnc and swtiching to DVD2SVCD (which uses TMPGEnc as its internal rountine). DVD2SVCD basically checks your avi file and does all the configuration for you (no matter what kind of avi you have, I mean video and audio codec). TMPGEnc is a wonderful tool, but it can easily scare off many many newbies like me. You can download DVD2SVCD on www.doom9.org.

ok, i managed to solve the probelm,
1.download goldwave v5.06 http://www.goldwave.com/
2 open goldwave then click file at top left hand side,then click batch processing , make sure convert files to this formatt is checked (ticked)
save as type should read :Wave (*.wav)
attibutes: PCM signed 16 bit,stereo . if thats ok ,then click add files (top right hand side)
add the avi file (movie), once you have added the avi file then click begin at the bottom
it will then create a wav file ,roughly taking about 5mins ,deciding on the size of avi file.
now u should have a wav file and your avi file,open up tmpgenc and drag n drop the avi file into :video file , then drag n drop the wav file into: audio file, then the rest is history .
goldwave v5.06 is free demo for one month

You can do the same thing with "Virtual Dub" and Virtual dub is free and this Version supports Mpeg 2 files:
http://fcchandler.home.comcast.net/stable/VirtualDub-MPEG2.zip

If you install this it will also support AC3 audio files and so will Tmpgenc:
http://fcchandler.home.comcast.net/AC3ACM/AC3ACM.zip

All you do is Load your AVI into Virtual Dub then go to "Audio" and set it to "Full proscessing Mode" then go to "File" to "Save Wav" and give it a Name and save it and that is it you will have a Wav audio file that you can use as the audio source in tmpgenc..With the AC3 ACM Decompressor installed you should be able to encode AVI Files with AC3 audio to Mpeg in tmpgenc without haveing to extract the audio first...Cheers

It would be nice if the BBS were split into DVD, SVCD and VCD sections, so you don't have to weed through so many posts that are unrelated to the problem you are currently experiencing.

do a search ya lazy bastard ;/

Apparently TMPGEmc reacts differently to field order mismatches than other mpeg encoders I have dealt with. In Ulead, for example, I get banded choppy playback but it's sort of obvious that the bands are the fields. In TMPGEnc I believe it times directly on the field you set it to, so if it isn't there where you tell it it is, then you get a blank space or something that Settop DVDs skip or hang on. Really weird...

So what are you saying, it was a field order problem?

Heh! Maybe...
I found it set to B but I think my trouble came from me failing to save templates after changing them. Or it could very well have been that because I was used to seeing field trouble manifest as horizontal banding instead of actual jerky playback. I thought that maybe we were just using different words to describe the same thing but TMPGEnc just treats the encoding process differentlly in this case. I'm so glad it wasn't bitrate spikes, as some had been suggesting.

FALSE ALARM...

Trouble still there. Made only one succesful burn using CBR 8000kbps.
It's not that my settop DVD player can't handle VBR, LSX encoder set for vbr works fine on it.

I've been following NTSC standards. 29.97, interlaced, (DV Type-1, Field Order A). Applying no filters. Tried CQ, CBR (worked once???) and 2-pass VBR. Never went over 8000kbps for video and avoid audio until final DVD creation via TMPGEnc DVD Author (which rocks). Audio is always stereo PCM @ 16-bit 48kHz (around 1500kbps) and works fine in conjunction with LSX encoded mpeg2, authored and burned through DVD Author, as well.

So it's not DVD Author. It's not Mediastudio (where LSX encoder resides). It's not my audio. It's all trouble with TMPGEnc Plus. Everybody that I seem to get hints and templates from is a PAL-head. Not that they're apathetic to "my cause" but you don't ask a roofer to fix your refrigerator.

Are "standards" really that hard to come by? Every DVD I've ever bought or rented plays just fine on my settop. What does the industry use, not some DVD pirate?

I have a 121MB divx avi file i want to convert to vcd but it's gonna be bigger than the 700MB cd i use. A) Is there any way to shrink the size of the output file to fit onto one disk or B) Can i break the file up into two and put it on two cd's?

Yes to both.
Tell us which one you want and then we'll help.