I've been using Smart Renderer now for a week, but I have been surprised that it has required re-encoding of my compliant Dolby Digital Audio. The particulars are below:

Starting file type: TS (from HDPVR)
Video Stream: MPEG-4 AVC (MP@L4), 1920x1080, 29.97 fps, 1:1, Interlace (Top Field First), 19999 kbps
Audio Stream: Dolby Digital, 48000 Hz, 5.1 ch Surround, 384 kbps

Output Mode: Connect Clips into One (it is a single clip)
Output Target: MKV File
Container: MKV (.mkv)

Any idea why the audio requires re-encoding? I don't understand. Thanks.

Test extract audio and video channels. ac3 audio with delaycut fixed, finally uses TMSR4

Not even that 5.1 dolby digital streams are reencoded, it seems to be mixed down to stereo.

In my case the problem seems to be caused by format changes in the broadcasted program:

-> src_audio: AC-3, CM, 2/0(2.0), bsid 6, dn -23dB, 48000Hz, 448kbps @ 00:00:00.000
-> src_audio: AC-3, CM, 3/2lfe(5.1), bsid 6, dn -27dB, cm -3.0dB, sm -3dB, 48000Hz, 448kbps @ 00:07:52.160
-> src_audio: AC-3, CM, 3/2(5.0), bsid 6, dn -27dB, cm -3.0dB, sm -3dB, 48000Hz, 448kbps @ 02:07:47.552
-> src_audio: AC-3, CM, 2/0(2.0), bsid 6, dn -23dB, 48000Hz, 448kbps @ 02:07:47.616
-> src_audio: AC-3, CM, 3/2lfe(5.1), bsid 6, dn -27dB, cm -3.0dB, sm -3dB, 48000Hz, 448kbps @ 02:12:55.296

Smart Renderer doesn't seem to take format changes into account and therefore reencodes the file to 2.0, even I wanted to have 5.1.

Same issue here. I'm using the trial (one day so far).

I tried it with AVCHD files from a canon Vixia HF M41 camrea and it all works great but when I tried it wit a .wtv file from windows media center (Audio: Dolby Digital, 48000 Hz, Stereo, 384 kbps), the smart render analyzer shows the audio as all red indicating it will all be re-encoded.

roppp, How were you able to see format changes within the audio?

I used ProjectX to demux the transport stream. During demux process the format change was output as shown above. ProjectX has also the ability to modify the 2.0 ac3 to 5.1 by adding missing (silent) channels ("replace all non-3/2 AC-3 by 3/2lfe silence"). Afterwards the ac3 imported to SmartRenderer is no longer re-encoded.

I believe the iPhone 4 can support H.264 video playback at higher resolutions than MPEG-4 (reaches a max of 640 x 480). The display is 960 x 640, so is it possible for MovieStyle to also support H.264 so that we can have 856 x 480 or 960 x 540 (16:9) resolutions? If so, how about an update to the software to support these higher resolutions?

Perhaps an update is needed to support iPhone5 and newer Android devices like Samsung Galazy S3?

Never mind about iPhone setting - I see this is needed to be set in the Preferences. In a future release, given it's 2012 - most people have iPhone4 - should consider making iPhone 4 the default.

can you tell me which codec is better to use with this program for the best quality ( i allways use mkv-720p to dvd9 ) I do not like the output quality

Codec x264 "Best option" + AC3 "Original Audio"

Remember

Bluray 1080p 25Mbps 2 hours 25GB (Perfect)
MKV's "720P" 9Mbps 2 hours 8.5GB (Good)

I have been using the software this week. Works great and processing is FAST!

Only issue is smart rendering files from the HDPVR.

Same problem here..
I bought this software for pvr edit
and i can't use it for this !

I have used TMPGenc 4 express successfully for some time. just bought Smart renderer 4 but find that occasionally get extensive pixelation on transitions. i assume that this is related to the Scene Change Detection as it reduced when I removed SCD. the output is very visible for several seconds and therefore is unuseable.

I assumed that SCd would improve transitions not make them very visible. Am I missing something. In the meantime I cannot use Smart renderer 4 and will revert back to 4Express. Is Smart rendere4 a waste of money if you already have 4 express. I just wanted more MTS options for HD video.

thanks

Usually Ali_DVR_Export_Tool use for DVB-SD recordings.
Although I get a TS file, to further refine the use MPEG2 MPEG_STREAMCLIP chain, just so I get an MPEG2 file with TMSR4 editable without jumps or excessive pixelation, catches are MPG2 GOP DVB long but MPEG_STREAMCLIP largely corrects this problem, yet perceived a slight loss in the process from (ALI. dvr) -> (. TS LONG GOP 15Mbps) -> (. MPG [Fixed GOP, 8Mbps] = "Editable with TMSR4")

I guess DVB-HD has similar problems to obtain purified chains MPEG2 + MP2 in DVB-SD, besides being LONG GOP, should be equally difficult to obtain in DVB-HD channels in H265 + AC3 clean, they are also editable without major problems. Try try TSDoctor, MPEG_STREAMCLIP, TMSR4.

Hi
I'm evaluating TMPGEnc MPEG Smart Renderer 4. In short I used it to cut a part of a h264 video (BDMV structure with no audio). Output was a m2ts. It played fine on TMT5 player. Then I demuxed this m2ts with eac3to and got a .h264 file. This file played fine too on TMT5 player. After that I remuxed this h264 adding audio track (DTS-HD) using tsmuxer output Blu-ray disk. But I noticed stuttering on video just after cutting part. I tried others output (m2ts, avchd) with tsmuxer but always stuttering.
Out of curiosity I tried mkvmerge using the demuxed h264 track and the audio track and I didn't experience any stuttering on the mkv.

So it seems a problem related to tsmuxer compatibility. Is there any workaround I can use, or maybe some alternative to tsmuxer so I can get a remuxed non-suttering BDMV structure?

Thanks in advance for your help and your opinions

FameRing SmartCutter (a competitor to Smart Renderer 4) has a special "tsMuxeR compatible" mode where, after doing the edits, it goes through the entire AVC stream cleaning it up so that tsMuxeR can import the result properly. Sounds like Smart Renderer 4 needs this feature!

I'm not sure what exactly the fixes needs are. With the (very limited) AVC analysis tools I have, the only difference I see is that the POC values are all changed and any negative POC values in the original stream are removed.

I could upload an example of tsMuxeR incompatible and tsMuxeR compatible video if needed.

I experienced poor results using SmartCutter compared to Smart Renderer. But getting an output 'txmuser friendly' would be great. Maybe some developers can explain why at the moment it doesn't work and if a fix will be added
Thanks

DTS-HD and Dolby-THD are a mix of (DTS + MLP) or (AC3 + MLPs), MLP is a codec used in DVD-Audio, and is equivalent to FLAC, the ideal would be to use PCM, PCM is not easily accessible from MLP insert in DTS-HD or Dolby-THD, there are tools like EAC3TOOLS but generally only extract AC3 or DTS audio "CORE" no "MLP". If we obtain PCM from DTS-HD or Dolby-THD is just the problem for seamless editing, PCM is the origin of all sound master, AC3 is a convenient alternative.

I've been looking through the archives and I can't find a definitive answer to whether these are compatible with TMPGEnc Authoring Works 5.

If I import a M2TS file with Blu-Ray 3D in AVC format will that work with Authoring Works 5? Will it get re-encoded?

If the M2TS file has a DTS-HD stream instead of LPCM, will that work with Authoring Works 5?

My intended workflow will be to encode the video with Edius Pro (or Vegas Pro, if necessary), the audio with DTS-HD Master Audio Suite, mux with TSMuxer and then into Authoring Works 5 to create the menu structure. Will this work?

Andy

Natively, no they are not supported.

I've read some people finding workarounds for DTS audio, but I don't remember offhand how they did it.

Even with the DTS audio workaround, which uses directshow filter, you are still forced to re-encode it to one of the supported formats, so you can't make a bluray with DTS audio with TMPGEnc Authoring Works 5

You could use multiavchd. It is freeware and will allow you to create a bluray disc with DTS audio, without re-encoding the audio at all. TMPG will not allow you to create anything other then PCM or ac3 audio files, sadly. I wonder when or if they will fix this, because even NERO allows you to do this if you purchase their DTS plugin.

Hello,
What is the specs of file that cannot set as master ?
I see other files except .ts that can be master.
(mp4).ts dvb files why must be always rescue ??

I would like to cut the commercials of a movie for example,
without reencode !
is this possible?

Thanks

It depends on the actual video stream parameters. For instance, if the bitrate is too high for the level, it won't be smart renderable.

Post the specs of your video here if you can. You can use MediaInfo to get the specs.

These are the specs of one greek broadcast.
Almost all greek broadcasts have same specs:

Format : MPEG-TS
File size : 9.55 MiB
Duration : 16s 524ms
Overall bit rate : 4 741 Kbps
Network name : Digea DVB-T
Original network name : Astra Satellite Network 19,2'E

Video
ID : 1350 (0x546)
Menu ID : 300 (0x12C)
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : Main@L3.0
Format settings, CABAC : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames : 3 frames
Format settings, GOP : M=3, N=12
Codec ID : 27
Duration : 16s 400ms
Bit rate : 4 313 Kbps
Width : 720 pixels
Height : 576 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 4:3
Frame rate : 25.000 fps
Standard : PAL
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : MBAFF
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.416
Stream size : 8.43 MiB (88%)
Color primaries : BT.601-6 525, BT.1358 525, BT.1700 NTSC, SMPTE 170M
Transfer characteristics : BT.601-6 525, BT.601-6 625, BT.1358 525, BT.1358 625, BT.1700 NTSC, SMPTE 170M
Matrix coefficients : BT.601-6 525, BT.1358 525, BT.1700 NTSC, SMPTE 170M

Audio
ID : 1351 (0x547)
Menu ID : 300 (0x12C)
Format : MPEG Audio
Format version : Version 1
Format profile : Layer 2
Codec ID : 3
Duration : 16s 536ms
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 192 Kbps
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Video delay : -1s 327ms
Stream size : 388 KiB (4%)
Language : Greek

Menu
ID : 43 (0x2B)
Menu ID : 300 (0x12C)
Duration : 16s 524ms
List : 1350 (0x546) (AVC) / 1351 (0x547) (MPEG Audio, Greek)
Language : / Greek
Service type : digital television
SCTE35_PID : 1354

Does this help?
Can you do this acceptable for smart render?

Thanks!

MediaInfo:

General
ID : 1 (0x1)
Complete name : E:\ANT1 News_2012-11-03 13-03-30.ts
Format : MPEG-TS
File size : 9.55 MiB
Duration : 16s 524ms
Start time : UTC 2012-11-03 11:03:42
End time : UTC 2012-11-03 11:03:42
Overall bit rate : 4 741 Kbps
Network name : Digea DVB-T
Original network name : Astra Satellite Network 19,2'E
Country : GRC
Timezone : +02:00:00

Video
ID : 1350 (0x546)
Menu ID : 300 (0x12C)
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : Main@L3.0
Format settings, CABAC : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames : 3 frames
Format settings, GOP : M=3, N=12
Codec ID : 27
Duration : 16s 240ms
Bit rate : 4 313 Kbps
Width : 720 pixels
Height : 576 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 4:3
Frame rate : 25.000 fps
Standard : PAL
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : MBAFF
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.416
Stream size : 8.35 MiB (87%)
Color primaries : BT.601-6 525, BT.1358 525, BT.1700 NTSC, SMPTE 170M
Transfer characteristics : BT.601-6 525, BT.601-6 625, BT.1358 525, BT.1358 625, BT.1700 NTSC, SMPTE 170M
Matrix coefficients : BT.601-6 525, BT.1358 525, BT.1700 NTSC, SMPTE 170M

Audio
ID : 1351 (0x547)
Menu ID : 300 (0x12C)
Format : MPEG Audio
Format version : Version 1
Format profile : Layer 2
Codec ID : 3
Duration : 16s 536ms
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 192 Kbps
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Compression mode : Lossy
Delay relative to video : -1s 327ms
Stream size : 388 KiB (4%)
Language : Greek

Menu
ID : 43 (0x2B)
Menu ID : 300 (0x12C)
Duration : 16s 524ms
List : 1350 (0x546) (AVC) / 1351 (0x547) (MPEG Audio, Greek)
Language : / Greek
Service name : ANT1
Service type : digital television
SCTE35_PID : 1354

I don't see anything wrong with the file in terms of format specifications, but I'm no expert.
Have you been importing it with the Source Wizard's TS file importer?

Yes i did
I tried with and without TS file importer
and i get same result: always rescue :(
I could upload a small sample, if it helps

Thanks for your answer anyway !

Test Sets with TSDoctor chains M2TS, DVB correct problems, now checks if TMSR4 edit better.

I have the same problems. My 720p ts files recorded from germany DVB-C channel ARD-HD could not be set as master. But these are the only files I need to smart-cut because after a reencode with Mastering Works 5, the filesize is bigger with a bit lower quality. There are some recordings I would like to keep the original bitrate and encoding. I only need to cut the start an endpoint.
Where can I read the specs necessary for smartcut ability. All my tested files wasn't able. I have Editor 3 and if none of my h264 TS Files will work, I don't need an upgrade.

SmartCutter did the Job. It is incredible to use, but he did.

I just want my money back !
Better buy SmartCutter

how do i get all my pages to have motion instead on 1 by 1 i click the motion box
please help thks

Activate it in the Global Menu Settings.

>Activate it in the Global Menu Settings.

Where, exactly? I don't see an option there.

In the Menu Stage, click on Blu-ray/DVD Global Menu Settings button in upper left corner.
In the settings window, select the Motion Menu tab.
Select one of the Motion menu radio buttons.

All video items in your menus will then animate.

However, I think I misunderstood the original issue. I'm guessing Dhardjono is talking about the Simulation Stage where each page's motion menus must be rendered before you can preview it. If that's what you all are talking about, then there's no way around that.
Note that you do not need to do the render the motion preview for all pages in order to output them. The simulation has no affect on the output and is for preview purposes only.

>In the Menu Stage, click on Blu-ray/DVD Global Menu Settings button in upper left corner.
>In the settings window, select the Motion Menu tab.
>Select one of the Motion menu radio buttons.
>
>All video items in your menus will then animate.
>
>However, I think I misunderstood the original issue. I'm guessing Dhardjono is talking about the Simulation Stage where each page's motion menus must be rendered before you can preview it. If that's what you all are talking about, then there's no way around that.
>Note that you do not need to do the render the motion preview for all pages in order to output them. The simulation has no affect on the output and is for preview purposes only.

That's the issue that I'm concerned about. In Simulation mode, it's bothersome to have to wait for animation to begin after clicking the Motion tab, especially with Blu-Ray menu pages. I've communicated with support-eng@pegasys-inc.com support, and staff confirmed the issue and said that it would be sent to sthe user's wish list.

OK LET ME TRY THANKS FOR YOUR HELP ALL OF YOU

Also need to know how to put music in every page same song

Hello Fellows:
I have some problems using "labels" in my subtitles [<i>...</i>] or [<b>...</b>]. The final result shows these characters instead italian or bold.
¿Can you tell me how can I avoid this?
Thank you very much.

Unfortunately, those tags aren't supported, so it's best to delete them before you import it into TAW3.

I bought TMPGEnc MPEG Editor 3 to upgrade to smart renderer 4, how do I upgrade?

http://tmpgenc.pegasys-inc.com/en/shopping/tmsr4.html#tabSelector1

See 3rd column labeled Free Upgrade.

I'm testing TMSR4 without 3D rendering right now.
Immediately apparent is there is no DTS input audio support.

Being able to input h.264 video with DTS audio would be a nice feature.
Many blu-ray video have DTS audio.

Transcode DTS to AC3 with "DVDFab" RIP M2TS mode. Now you can edit video TMSR4 H264 or MPEG2, VC1 unfortunately is not natively supported by CUDA in software PEGASYS.