I have read posts about people having audio sync problems when converting NTSC to PAL , and I'm a bit puzzled ...

I have never had any audio sync problems ..all I do is

- Decompress the audio to pcm format using avi2vcd
- Encode the resulting large avi to 25 fps PAL using TMPGenc with the toolame audio tool and the ssrc bitrate calculator


I have never come across any audio sync problems .... by reading the posts I should be ....odd

Any ideas anyone - Ashy/Minion/Griff etc ...

The most common problem with ntsc to pal conversions the way you do it is "Choppy Playback" cuz the length of the movie doesn"t change so there shouldn"t be a sync problem, the sync problem comes in when you are trying to do a "proper" ntsc to pal conversion and you have to change the framerate of the avi file and there for changeing the length of the video file which causes major de-sync.When I used to download files off the net I would always just encode every file to ntsc regardless of frame rate and most of the vcd"s would end up with slowdown and speed up chopy playback problem,Tmpgenc actually compencates quite well encodeing to different framerates but it"s not perfect..

Thanks Minion ...but the audio never sounds choppy ..if anything it sounds a lot better than before when I used to use TMPGenc's in built audio functionality.

With toolame and ssrc even if I drop the audio rate to 128 (which I always do now) both the speech and music in my XVCD's is perfectly in sync with no detectable choppiness.

Im not complaning mind you ;)

Minion isn't referring to the audio, but the actual movie playback itself.
The movie will have a slight stutter effect when you do framerate conversions with TMPG. If you haven't noticed it before you will now once you have a closer look. Take a look at something moving across the screen and you should see the effect.

ASHY

Ahhhhh .... now I get it ...
I have noticed that before ... not a big deal, but I guess it would be nice to know how to remove it.

thanks for the help guys

I first came across this stuttering effect within TMPGenc when converting PAL footage to NTSC. I'm not sure if it's the same stutter effect that you're talking about but it kind of looks like the field order has been reversed (which generally only shows up during fast moving footage.) I'm not sure if my solution will work when converting NTSC to PAL but I found by setting the Deinterlace filter in TMPGenc (MPEG Settings -> Advanced) to Double (field), this will double the frame rate, so go back to (MPEG Settings -> Video) and putting the frame rate back to what you want (PAL: 25 or NTSC: 29.97).

Hope that helps.

Hi!

In the past few days there occurs frequently an error while converting from Divx to SVCD. I have tried different versions of TMPGEnc but after some time the error was there again. The only text is: "Error 15152 15152" with an OK-Button. The conversion stops, but after clicking it converts again and produces the error after some seconds again. The error has occured only since 2 weeks or so. Before I converted about 50 movies.

I'm using Win XP, P3-500, 512 MB Ram, Geforce 2 MX

I have encoded roughly 12 vcd's various ways and have a constant problem. When the movie is playing on the dvd player, during the entire film, the audio will be in synch for a few minutes...then the video will get ahead of the audio for a few minutes and back to normal again...it does this the entire length of the film. I first simply encoded the film with TMPGenc then burned with nero. I then changed from nero to VCDeasy...same thing. I then used VirtualDub to extract the audio from the film, encoded both together with TMPGenc and then burned again with VCDeasy. SAME PROBLEM. PLEASE HELP!!!!!!

The "jerkey playback" problem is very common with avi files downloaded off the net at places like "kaaza" cuz many avi files on the net have frame rates that don"t conform to any mpeg standard (12.5fps,14.9fps,20fps)so when you encode them to mpeg tmpgenc has to make up for the missing frames and you get this jerkey out of sync effect, or if you just encode to the wrong frame rate you get this effect,post back with the stats of your avi file and the settings you encoded it with and then maybe we can see if that is the problem...

Well it all seems right to me, the original files all have a framerate of 23.976 and I am encoding it to the same framerate. If indeed it is from downloading from kazaa....is there some way to fix this problem?

Well you should really be encoding those movies to 29.97 fps by adding 3:2 pulldown to the movie unless your DVD player is capable of playing 23.97 movies smoothly which most players don't.

As for the synch problem, it is usually the burning software which is at fault.
Try using Instant CD/DVD 6.5 as this software has been known to correct this problem. Also don't burn above 4x as this can and usually does cause problems.

ASHY

sounds good to me, but won't I then have to deal with the horizontal lines throughout the film while using 3:2 pulldown?

3:2 won't cause any interlacing problems if you do it correctly.
You MUST encode to MPEG2 for 3:2 pulldown to work. MPEG1 VCD doesn't support it.

The easiest way is to select the 'NTSC FILM SVCD' template or the 'PAL FILM SVCD' template then unlock it and change the parameters you wish to change. This will add the correct 3:2 pulldown for you.
If you wish to do it your self then make sure you are encoding to MPEG2 then select the following options:

UNDER THE VIDEO TAB:
Encode mode- 3:2 pulldown when playback
Framerate- 23.976 fps(internally 29.97 fps)

ASHY

I cannot find and open .d2v files in tmpge software. The directory is
blank even If I know the file is there...

Leo

You haven't installed DVD2AVI correctly.
First install DVD2AVI then run it at least once then DON'T move it.
Next copy DVD2AVI.vfp from the DVD2AVI folder to the TMPG folder where the TMPGenc.exe is located.

You should now be able to open d2v files.

ASHY

What is the difference between TMPGEnc Plus from pegasys-inc.com and Tmpgenc from here, both are evaluation versions and share version number 2.56.39.143. If I pay for one am I entittled to use both the same way or is there different licenseing involved?

Please excuse my typeing or grammer english and japanses are my secound languages, I speak korean but I did not see a korean forum so I am posting here.

The differance is that you cannot register the demo version but you can register the "plus" version and the plus version is faster and it has a better 2 pass encodeing function,When you buy "tmpgenc" you just get the registration number for the plus version and there is no way to register the demo....

The Plus version also gives you unlimited MPEG2 encoding once registered.

Excuse me for asking, but when you say that the Plus version is faster, do you know how much faster? I am attemting to rip my first dvd into vcd, and have encountered many read failures, and am also somewhat surprised at the time it takes to covert the vob files. half of a 135 minute movie set to hi quality and noise reduction gave me a rip time of 28 hours for a 68 minute rip. Is this normal for hi quality mode?
I am running an overclocked AMD XP 2000 with 512mg of 2100 memory. I would gladly pay for the Plus version, if the rip times were substantially reduced.

Thanks in advance,
Phil

Either something is wrong with your system or you are loading vob files directly into tmpgenc,I do vcd"s at high quality and svcd"s and xvcd/xsvcd with 704 by 480 resolutions which makes it take like 30% longer than vcd"s and it doesnt take more than 14 hours on high quality and I only have a 800mhz Intel with 512mb sdr-ram, a regular vcd only takes about 6-8 hours, you should be able to encode in close to real time so no more than 2-3 hours for a whole movie, just don"t use the "highest quality" cuz that takes forever, I don"t know how you are encodeing your vob files (dvd2avi or loading directly in)but with your killer system you should be encodeing really fast......

Hello. I get the following error message when trying to open Star Wars EP2 Centropy version (ctp-ep2a.mpg) with TMPGenc 2.56:

File can not open, or unsupported.

But, I can successfully create an SVCD from this .mpg and play it in my DVD player.

Any ideas on why I can't open this file? I wanted to re-encode it because the aspect ratio is off.


TIA

If it is a mpeg 2 file then you need the "mpeg2 plugin" installed on your system so "tmpgenc" can open your mpeg2 file and de-muxing the file and loading the audo and video seperately can sometimes get it loaded when you have problems loading mpeg2 files when you do have the plugin installed...

Thank you.

Where can I get the mpeg2 plugin? I don't see at your site.



Thanks again.

I'd like to know too:) i have a bunch of mpeg2 videos id like to atlest convert to anouther format so i can use them with things.:)

I found a the "mpeg2 file reader" had to serch a bit but you can get it here
http://www.vcdhelp.com/tools.htm .........

This seems to be the best one.
http://www.plmovies.com/mpeg2codec_installer.zip

The other alternative is to open your MPEG2 files with DVD2AVI and create a project file then open that in TMPG.

ASHY

I leave TMPGEnc to encode a vob file (via DVD2AVI project file). I check on it a few times, and all's going well. Then, while I guess it's at 80-something% complete, I come back and the window's not there. Alt-Tab doesn't bring it up, it's not showing in the Task Manager, so I assume it's finished. I go to open the file, and find it's not complete - this one (totally different from the last problem I had) has final length which is 89% the total length.

Nothing shows up in the Event Log so I can't give any more details.

I have avi files which have been captured from DV via firewire into Premiere6 using the MS DV codec. The file shows that it is DV type 2.

I am having problem converting this file in Tmpgenc; I get memeory errors or pic going blank.

Should I be using type 2 DV codec or should I get type codec. If I need to use type 1, where do I get the codec?

Type 2 DV is only supported in tmpgenc so useing a type 1 dvd codec won"t help.You should try raiseing the priority of the "openDML" file reader in the "vfapi plugins" this might get your file read properly, What type of errors are you getting ,are they system errors or errors in tmpgenc?certain errors in tmpgenc are caused by certain things so maybe leaveing the type off error you get might help someone help you find out what the problem is...

Hi
I get the following error "272762914 869648@ when trying to encode mpeg4 file
to mpeg2! Any thoughts welcome.


Chegmasterfunk

I have same problem, error -272762914 859034592.
Have tried all kind of things, nothing works. Have downloaded the last TMPGEnc, 19. Juli, trial version, and still no solution.

Hopefully someone knows??!

I have TMPG load without the wizard. The stream types are all greyed out and also when I click on SETTINGS I can't change the stream type or any options having to do with the one it is set to. I have some video without audio that I want to encode but I can not select just the video stream type.

Look in your template folder and find 'unlock.mcf' and double click it. This will unlock the settings.

ASHY

Thanks much, that did the trick.

Hello I have downloaded several movies that seem to contain no audio. I've tried several things but can't figure out what I should do to extract the audio.

Most probaly Ac3 audio is contained in these files. You need to install DVD player software or an Ac3 filter to play these files.
To extract download Virtualdub_ac3 and extract to a wav.

ASHY

For a good codec pack ...try installing the Nimo codec pack

http://perso.wanadoo.fr/nimo/

The audio is windows media audio V2. Where do I find the file I would need to extract the audio to a wav file for conversion?

Install Divx 3.11 then load the file into Virtualdub and extract to a wav.

ASHY

after encoding picture is not smooth i have tried changing number of i p &b pictures in gop, motion search to highest quality interlace to de-interlace bottom field to top field i even thought it might be a windows xp problem so i loaded win 98 again but it didnt help are their any filters that will fix this any suggestions would help

What do you mean not smooth. Does it stutter? Have you changed the framerate.

ASHY

the frane rate is 25fps for vcd and the video studders but the sound is perfect the movie seems to pause once every 2 seconds or so but only for about an eighth of a second. i have done other vcd conversions that have come out perfect and i cant work out why these ones dont. i was using win 98 then but ive tried that and it still didnt work. last time i used the vcd guide from flexion.org and they worked perfectly. i think i used a donald grafton filter and i dont know if that was why

I would guess that the original footage is not 25 fps.
Check the framerate of the original, if it is different this is your problem.

ASHY