I am having the same problem 2.57 plus stinks because it seems to totally disregard the vbr bitrate values.

Example I encoded a two hour movie with 2pass vbr 2520 max average 2100 and minimum 500 kbps. The end result was average bitrate 2160 kbps. Needed 3 discs so I decide to re-encode and lowever the average bitrate to 1600.... Tmpegenc 2.57 gave me the same filesize!!!!!!! even though i made sure i typed in 1600 average vbr and save the .tpr file and double checked it it gave me a 2160kbps average file--just ignoring my parameters (1600 average).

SO I decided to go back to tmpgenc plus 2.56 and you know what? no problem. The average was 1610 kbps (I choose 1700 kbps) and it fit on 2 cdrs...

Something needs to be fixed....

Are you saying that you put in a certain bitrate value then encode then you look at your project file and different values are there than the ones you typed in???or are you viewing the mpeg file through a bitrate viewer and the determaning the bitrate is off???I guess there could be a bug in the way it is reading the tpr project files in 2-pass mode but this is the first time I have heard of a problem like this in this version of Tmpgenc, then again Most poeple Don"t use the 2-pass method cuz I it widely known that the CQ method is superior to the 2-pass method(strange but true)when the source files are of good quality, anyway One thing you might try is see if Tmpgenc 2.57 will read the TPR files from 2.56 properly and if it does then that is probably were the problem is....good luck

I've been having the same problem. Originally I was using CQ100 but that can severely limit the video to about 37min/disc. So I decided to bite the bullet and try 2Pass. It seems like it's ignoring avg. bitrate. I had set up a bitrate of just over 1800kbps which should have resulted in a final file size of just over 700mb. I ended up with a file of 886mb. I can deal with a little variance but this is ridiculous.

Hi Guys. Got a small problem that I couldn't seem to find listed in these back pages...
I downloaded VAMPIRE HUNTER D "BLOODLUST" in avi format.When played in Windows Media Player I had good sound and video.Then I used TMPG to convert to an MPEG1 format. Picture quality good... but no sound. Since the AVI file does possess audio, I don't understand how it gets "lost" during the conversion. I have converted avi files both before and since I tried to convert "Vampire Hunter", and these others transform perfectly... I use the TMPG Wizard, so it is not a case of me "messing around" with the settings....
I am truely puzzled.

Well this is one of the most Common questions asked here , the problem is that the audio format in your avi files are probably not supported in Tmpgenc.What you need to do is extract the audio to WAV format with "Virtual Dub" and use that as your audio source,but if the audio is AC3 then you will need an AC3 decoder to extract the audio to a WAV file, you should actually do this to most every file you encode with tmpgenc cuz if the audio is compressed tmpgenc has trouble sometimes encodeing it........

I have installed the version 2.57 on do different computers, both running Windows XP. On one machine it run s fine, on the other I got a "mpeg2 trial period expired" just from the beginning. Is there still a free mpeg2 trial period in tmpgenc? Whar could be the reason it doesn't work one machine?

http://www.tmpgenc.net/e_contact.html

it says :
> Because of MPEG-2 licensing matter, we are not able to provide unlimited MPEG-> 2 encoding function for free, thus, TMPGEnc (which you can download from this > website) has limited MPEG-2 encoding function because it is free.

I know that mpeg2 encoding is limited, it has been always in the following way:
Every new release had a mpeg2 trial period of 2 (or 4) weeks, after that you had to download a new release.
This worked for me up to version 1.54, if i remember correctly. After that, each new version I downloaded (last was 1.57) reports "mpeg 2 trial period expired" just from the beginning, but just on one of my computers. On the other one it works without complaining. I don't believe that limited mpeg2 support means "works only on every second machine..." ;-)
Udo

The newer version leave registry entries in you computer so when your demo run"s out you can not download the latest version and have it work cuz your registry tells the new demo that you have had a demo before and then cancels the mpeg2 encodeing function........

...yea that's just so annoying. Still, if you want to encode to mpeg2, you could always pay the $48. TMP is one of the best software encoders on the market and would be a bargain at twice the price.

Griff

I tried to encoder from pinnacle made AVI file to make a SVCD file.
Every time comes an error.
"Read error occurred at adress 004986A3 of module TMPGEnc.exe with 0000004" or
'''' 00481FFD 61FF0538
Why. Who can help me.

How did you get on with AVIsynth buddy. Did u get CCE 2.50 to work. If you did how much of a speed increase did u get?

ASHY

Hi Ashy, Yes I got 2.50 to work and I got avisynth to work(sort of) and then loaded the avs file into CCE, and the speed differance was about 15-20% faster than frameserveing through tmpgenc than the vfapi converter but the vfapi converter is faster if I just load in a d2v file into Vfapi then into CCE but I need the de-interlace from tmpgenc more than the resizeing cuz i get really jumpy playback with CCE files if they aren"t de-interlaced (I think it is a field order problem)and I noticed that the 2.50 version has a few flaws in it like the quality isn"t quite as good and I get fast and slow playback from the dvd player with files encoded with the 2.50 version ,but thats probably cuz it is an older version and doesn"t have the Choice of Matrix..I then set up Tmpgenc to accept avs scripts and took a crash cource in writeing avs script but every avs i load into Tmpgenc or any other program I get a wierd error like "Floating Point is divisable by 0" and it reads the resolution wrong...But i will keep playing with it till I get it working and I really appriciate the help you gave me...you rule Ashy

PS: There is supposed to be a CCE SP 2.66 out fairly soon and it is supposed to have lots and lots of new features like a variety of filters and it is supposed to accept AVS the VDR files, can"t wait for the demo...

Strange how you say the VFAPI AVI is faster than the AVS file. I usually get double the speed of the VFAPI converter using AVIsynth.
I have a 1.7 P4 and the speed is usually 1.5x real time, twice as fast as the VFAPI method.

The main reason AVIsynth is faster than VFAPI is because VFAPI and TMPG use RGB whereas DVD2AVI and AVIsynth use YUV which means there is no colour space conversion going on and as YUV encoding is faster than RGB the AVIsynth way should be faster than the VFAPI way.

If you need to de-interlace Minion then all you need do is add these lines:
BOB
CHANGEFPS(29.970)

Also it is said that the AVIsynth BOB de-interlacer is the best there is.
Take a look here to see for yourself.
http://nickyguides.digital-digest.com/interlace-test.htm

ASHY

Wow,You are getting pretty good speed,on my system(Intel 1.7ghz)if I just load the d2v into the vfapi converter then encode it the speed is about 0.8 real time, but if I put the d2v into Tmpgenc and resize and de-interlace then load the "TPR" file into the vfapi converter then encode it the speed goes down to about 0.625 real time, and if I use the AVS files from Gordain Knot the speed is about 0.725 real time, but real avi files encode at close to 2 times real time so it isn"t a large amount faster than the vfapi but the AVS is faster than the resized and de-interlaced vfapi, I just wish it would work with 2.62 cuz I"m not really likeing the quality of 2.50 but at least I have another choice for frame serveing.......Thanx again Ashy

Hi Ashy, I just found a program that will let version 2.62 read avs scripts, it is called "Link2 tool" it says it can do color space conversions at 300fps on a 1ghz, but as my luck will have it it isn"t freeware and the demo will only frame serve at 5fps and I can do better than that, so I was wondering if you know anything about this program or where I could get an older version that works ,anyway thanx again........

I'm aware of this little proggy and have used it, but sadly as you say is only a demo.
It does work quite well and the speed is pretty nice in CCE, there seems to be no speed loss what so ever frameserving through this tool.

I haven't come across a full version, but it only requires a small donation to register it.

I was actually thinking of registering, but the only thing that has stopped me is I can't run a proper test with the tool as it only allows small parts to be encoded at full speed then drops down to 5fps. With this I can't do a proper test, so i'm a bit unsure.
I may bite that bullet a and go for it, but as you say the new CCE 2.66 is supposedly going to support AVIsynth files, so heres hoping. I'll let you know what I turn up.

Another thing that may interest you is that CCE 2.50 can also open Virtualdub frame server files. Just remember the rule about adding audio.

Minion are you encoding the audio with CCE? CCE isn't the best for audio and you should get a speed boost if you disable it also disable the antinoise filter as this can slow things down and is not required for sources such as DVD and won't make a jot of difference as the source is already noise free.

I use MPEGDJencoder to encode to MP2. This encoder is way faster than anything out there and the quality is pretty good and no sync probs.
Encodes a full 2hr movie to an mp2 audio file in under 3 mins!

P.S. Can you post me the script that Gordian knot made for you as I can't understand why it's working so slow because at the very least you should be getting real time on your system.

Heres a script I use which gives me almost 1.5x real time:


# PLUGINS
LoadPlugin("D:PROGRA~2GORDIA~1mpeg2dec.dll")


# SOURCE
mpeg2source("D:Ripped Vobsvts_01.d2v")

# CROPPING
crop(67,75,586,427)

# RESIZING
# for PAL-SVCD
BicubicResize(480,393,0,0.5)

# BORDERS
AddBorders(0,92,0,91)

# FOOL CCEnc
ResampleAudio(44100)



ASHY

Hi Ashy, I had a look at the avs file from gordain knot and it is totally screwed up, it is like a whole page long with settings in it that I didn"t specify useing all these filters that i did not choose, and doing resizeing that i did not specify and will only out put the avs with Pal settings even though I chose NTSC, plus it will not accept re-sized d2v file and won"t accept d2v files from the new 1.77 version, it seems that no matter what settings I choose I get the same avs file so now I have to edit out about 15 different filters change and the settings manually, I think I will delete the whole Gordain Knot program and the avisynth.dll and just re-install the avisynth.dll and do manual scripts cuz there shouldn"t be like 50 lines of script when I only use a couple options, anyway i"m looking around for a full version of Link2 tool so If I find one I"ll let you know....see ya

Don't worry about the extra lines in the script. That happens to me. What is actually happening is Gordian knot places a # before the filters you don't want to use and AVIsynth then ignores them.

I had these in my script but edited them out for easier viewing, sorry I should have said.

To correct the PAL resizing output for NTSC that Gordian knot creates just minus 96 from whatever the second figure is where it says:
# RESIZING
# for PAL-SVCD
This will give you the correct output for NTSC.
ASHY

i tried to convert divx clips to svcd.
well the video was encoded fine but theres no audio.
i tried several divx clips but it didnt work with any of them

Most Divx files have a unsupported audio format, usually "VBR MP3" or "AC3" What you need to do is extract the audio to a "wav" file with "virtual dub" then encode that as your audio source but if the audio is AC3 you will need an AC3 decoder to extract the audio.....

"Stream Reading Error" -- Every time when I finish encode a large svcd file (about 800MBytes), this error pop up, I have try using the mpeg tool to rewrite the header but the same error occured while writting the SVCD header. However, if i cut like 1 or 2 sec from the video using cut and marge, the problem is gone, but it only works sometime, and it's hard to guess the lucky number (sometimes 1 sec, sometimes 1.25 sec, sometime even 12 secs) is there any reason why this is happening? Any way that i can fix it? or any way i can predict the lucky number?

Example: a 779MB mpg file..
no cut , error happens at 25% of writing SVCD header
cut 1 sec, error happens at 3% of writing SVCD header
cut 2 sec, error happens at 12% of writing SVCD header
and so on.....

my pc (P4 1.6A OC 2.4A, 256mb ram DDR 266)
i have try downclock cpu back to 1.6, but the problem remains.

Try useing "BBmpeg" to mux and write the header and see if that works, and depending on the authoring program you are useing you don"t need to have a svcd header, the authoring programs I use accept mpeg2/system streams with a plain mpeg2/vbr header, or are you haveing problems with the system header also, cuz it writes 2 headers in svcd mode.The authoring programs that will accept plain mpeg2 file without a svcd header are "ulead dvd workshop"Ulead dvd plugin" and "VCDEasy" there are probably many other ones too but these are the ones I own and know about for sure...

I too get this message. It started for me when I upgraded to version 2.57 . Using a xsvcd format. And its only on systems with the new version.

Any ideas. Cant seem to find the old version.

Just a quick question: I have 3 x AVIs from my camcorder... can TMPGEnc encode of
all this, in the order I choose, into 1 x MPG video? I would also need to leave
out parts of one of the AVIs, so my goal would ultimately be:

AVI #1 -- Encode all of this.
AVI #2 -- Encode first 10 mins, skip 2 mins, encode last 10 mins.
AVI #3 -- Encode all of this.

Result: 1 x MPG of the parts listed above. Can it be done?

CLARIFICATION: I want to combine the 3 x AVIs in one step, that is, I *don't* want to create 3 x MPGs and then merge those into 1 x MPG. Can TMPGEnc do it?

Yes and No, you would have to frame serve the clips from "Virtual dub" to Tmpgenc but it will encode the 3 parts into one file supposedly in an upcomeing version there is supposed to be support for segmented AVI"s.....

I don't want to use VirtualDub at all to achieve my goal... so it looks like I'll
have to wait for TMPGEnc to be updated then. No problem! :)

You actually can encode segmented files in Tmpgenc if you are useing the "Canopus DV Codec" or the "Panasonic GiGa DV codec"..You might be waiting quite a while before tmpgenc encodes segmented avi files cuz then have had it in the plans for quite a while but still haven"t doen it........

Seems to be a bug when loading picture frame lists, program hangs and must be shut down

anybody got any ideas ?

Force picture type -> settings

load

Works fine for me ...maybe you need to re-install ?
Failing that have a look at what else is running in the background (eg antivirus, firewall etc), another prog could be causing the conflict.

It's not a bug. You need to be very patient. Go and make yourself a coffee or something as it takes quite a while to be loaded. It should load trust me.

ASHY

Will try killing antivirus and so on, waited more than 13 hours , so if it works ok for u guys, there must me something in the background killin it

thanx for input

I captured an avi-File from my DCR.
It can be opened an Encoded by TMPG without problems.

After I cut the video with Adobe premiere I export it to an avi-File again. This file can't beo opened and following message appears: "File ... cannot open or unsupported!"

What is wrong ?

Thankx Chris

First off why are you encodeing avi to mpeg then encodeing mpeg to avi then back to mpeg again???You should capture to avi edit to avi then encode to mpeg..What avi format did you render the edited mpeg file to with Premier??The problem could be the codec that you rendered to might not be supported in tmpgenc but it probably is one of the vfapi plugins need"s the priority raised depending on the avi format, if it is a "direct show format" then you will need to raise the "direct show file reader" and if it is a "openDML format" then you will need to raise the "openDML file reader" and so on and ect..If you don"t know what format you used then first try raiseing the "direct show file reader" cuz direct show is the most common format.......

Thankx Minion,

I encode to avi from my dvr. Then I want to cut the avi-files, but after that i've to export them to get the new cutted-avi. Or am I wrong ?

From premiere I export the timeline as a "Microsoft DV AVI" other options are:
"Microsoft AVI", "TIFF-Sequence", "Quick-Time" and so on. the compression method is "Microsoft DV (PAL)".

I can't find any of "your" options like "dml" or "direct show". Do I need any further tools than TMPG ? How can I get more plug-ins if neccessary ?

can you help me ?

Many thankxs
Chris

They are there you have to go to the "vfapi plugins" and that is where the file reading filters are, so go to "options" to "enviromental settings" to "vfapi plugins" thats where the "direct show file reader" and the "openDML file reader" are, if you used the "microsoft avi" then you shouldn"t have a problem....

Hi,

Im converting various DivX's to XVCD.

The res Im converting to is 480x576
The aspect ratio Im converting to is 4:3 (PAL)

Now the source avis' come in various resolutions (640x272, 640x352,576x240 etc). I know that most people use the source aspect ratio set to say 16:9 if it is widescreen and the video arrange method set to full screen keep aspect ratio.

The problem is that with say a source that is 640x272 with the above setting the output looks squashed and the only way I have found round this is to set the video arrange method to center custom size and then enter values there like 480x400.

What is an easy method to work out what the source aspect ratio and video arrange method should be ?

regards

Olli

P.S I viewed the out put through Power DVD as I know Media player does not accurately show what it would look like on a TV

Since my DVD player will not play SVCD I thought I'd try the header conversion trick to get a file encoded to SVCD specs to play in my player

I did the following for a 5 section

- Loaded SVCD template
- Converted file
- Used MPEG tools to add the finished MPEG2 file and changed type to Video CD non standard

The resulting file plays OK in my DVD player but the file sizes are a little weird

The encoded SVCD mpeg is 219 meg
The same file with the header changed to MPEG1 is 91 meg

Any ideas ?

Is windows just reporting it incorrectly because of the header change ?
If so what is the real size I need to consider when fitting the entire movie across several CD's

Thanks

Olli

It could be that there was padding added to your SVCD by TMPG.
When using the 'MPEG1 VCD(non standard)' setting this padding is removed.

Did you use CBR to encode this movie or choose the padding option in VBR. If so it is likely padding was added. To keep the bitrate to a constant level, TMPG must add padding to low bitrate scenes otherwise the bitrate would drop below the set level.

ASHY

Hi Ashy

I used CQ_VBR mode and padding box was unchecked

Olli

Strange, have you actually watched through this movie to see if ALL of it is actually there. It seems unusual the size has dropped so much. TMPG has been known to cut the movie short when using this method.

If not it must be a windows quirk as I can't really see the file size dropping so much.

ASHY