Although I have already converted this large avi VHS captured file (19GB), and it had converted OK a couple times with other times reboots and/or errors. When I finally thought that I had achieved a good result, DVDMAESTRO is giving me the ÁÕhis video bitrate is too high according to the DVD standardsEerror and stops building the structure. Then I had to try to reconvert reducing the bitrate and then is when all my actual problems started. TMPGE stops converting on 100% of my attempts, in spite of all changes I have made. It is been two weeks now over the same problem. The most common errors were:

Read error occurred at address 00483F5D of module 'TMPGEnc.exe' with FFFFFFFF.
Read error occurred at address 0049A567 of module 'TMPGEnc.exe' with 333231D4.
Read error occurred at address 00499775 of module 'TMPGEnc.exe' with 24232228.
Read error occurred at address 00482408 of module 'TMPGEnc.exe' with FFFFFFFF.
or
Illegal floating decimal point calculation order.
or
At address 4090544, Read error occurred against address 4090544.

My last tried setting is a 2-pass VBR with 3400MB average bitrate with maximum set to 6000MB and minimum rate set to 0, NTSC, High Quality motion precision, DC component 9 bits, YUV 4:2:0, ratio 4:3, VBV buffer 0 (automatic), sound LPCM stereo, no closed GOPs.

I believe that the ÁÕoo high error rateEwas given because the movie was compiled with TMPG set to a maximum of 8000MB bitrate. If that had happened (on a peak) and was added to the LPCM bitrate, which eats bandwith, that could have reached the DVD upper rate limit.

I desperately want to save this graduation tape, any ideas are welcome.

My hardware is a ASUS A7N8X with XP2100+, Corsair Xtreme DDR2700, video ATI 9700PRO and 450GB of HDs, the biggest one is the 200GB Maxtor Every, very fast one E SONY DRU 500A, all with XP PRO.

My TMPGEnc is a registered copy. TMPGEnc does not respond to my inquiries.

I"m not surprised that Tech support doesn"t reply, they are Dick heads , after they get your Money that is the Last they want to hear from you unless you want to spend more money..I don"t really know exactly how to fix the errors you are getting ,But I do have an idea as to how to fool your DVD authoring Program into thinking that the Bitrate is Lower than it really is, there is a Program called "DVD Patcher" that will Change the header of the File so that it shows the Bitrate is whatever you want..I use it for Authoring SVCD"s that have over the SVCD Standard Bitrate so that the audthoring program thinks the Bitrate is standard..You can also use it to Change the header so that the Resolution and aspect Ratio are seen to be different than they are..But if Your authoring Program actually analizes the File for the Actual bitrate then this will not work, and Might not work even if you Do lower the Bitrate in Tmpgenc Because Tmpgenc Has Really Really Bad Bitrate controll, I have had SVCD files set at 2500kbs that Tmpgenc encoded But after encodeing I put the File in a Bitrate Viewer and the Bitrate has spiked up to over 5000kbs..When I need Realy strict Bitrate controll(And awesome Quality) I use CCE SP to encode to Mpeg2 cuz it follows the bitrate exactly as you set it and produces exelent Quality and is Up to 5 times faster than Tmpgenc and Does up to 9 pass encodeing...But to get rid of the errors you are getting you might try Frameserveing the source file to Tmpgenc with something like Virtual Dub or AVISYnth....

Thank you Minion for your kind answer. I saved it for future reference.

Yesterday night I had a miracle over here and I could find were problem was. I had been around this problem for more than a week. Because the hard disk where I am storing the avi is new (I mounted it on Feb 08), I could never imagine that the problem was fragmentation! Can you believe that? The 19GB avi file was 68% fragmented, causing TMPG to either reboot or cause those read errors. It took me hours and 3 pass to defragment the disk. Today I was able to compile the DVD, burn and test it, and it came out just perfect! To get rid of the ÁÃit rate too highEI encoded selecting on the Á®PEG Setting -> Rate Control Mode -> 2-pass VBS(VBR) -> Setting -> Maximum Bitrate 6000. I choose Average Bitrate to 3400 to fit the 1:53 tape below the 4070MB file size mark. If you leave the Maximum Bitrate on its default, i.e., 8000MB, and you are encoding your sound track using LPCM, the two bitrates combined, during peak video bitrates, can cause the excess bandwidth. Limiting the Maximum Bitrate to 6000MB (or 7000MB) avoid that to happen. Other option is to keep the Maximum Bitrate at 8000MB and encoded the sound using MPEG. The collateral effect is that your players legacy compliance will reduce.

Thanks,

John

You see, I'm going encode a SVCD. I'm going to encode the movie with 2520 kbps CBR.
Will the output get better if I chose Normal, High or Very high instead of Fast in the motion search precision field?
I mean, I'm using the highest bitrate so the motion search precision will not have any noticeble effect, right?

/david

Of course it will make a difference.
How do you expect TMPG to allocate the bitrate to each scene correctly if it doesn't look for where the motion is in a frame? The higher the setting the more accurate the search will be and 2520 kbps CBR is not the highest bitrate or is it even that high anyway.
My advice is to use a VBR setting, the best being 'Constant Quality(CQ)' and raise the bitrate.

Set it to 'high'. This will give a noticable improvement over the 'normal' setting, but don't bother with 'highest' as there is no improvment over 'high' except for the dranatically increased time it takes to encode.

ASHY

I have created a d2v project file in DVD2AVI and a mpa sound file was created automaticlly.
Then I got to TMPGEnc and open the d2v project file and the sound file.
And when I save it as a AVI file I don't get any sound in the file but when I save it as a MPEG file I get sound.
What's wrong?

What compression setting did you choose for the AVI audio?
In any case you should have created a wav for the audio not an Mpa file.

ASHY

MP3, 128kBit/s, 44,100 Hz, Stereo

I have a problem. Everytime I click on "Browse" to locate my AVI as the audio source, I get back a message saying, "Cannot open, or unsupported". I dunno what to do , now. The video was okay, but the adio source wont open. Can someone please help me??


Please email if you can help.

Generally speaking you should Extract the audio from your AVI files to a WAV file then use the wav file as the audio source..More and More poeple are useing AC3 audio in there Files especially with DiVX and XviD file downloaded off the net and Many encoders have major problems with AC3 Audio, so use something like "Virtual Dub" or even Better "AVI-MuX" to extract the audio to WAV format and use that as the audio source...

I was wondering if any has experienced the video playing great and then 30m or so into the video breaks up here and there and then returns to normal. I can't figure it out and need some help. Any ideas?

Does it only happen when you burn the mpg file to vcd or is it in the actual encoded file? I had a problem like this in which when I burned vcds about 30 or 40 minutes into it the video would get very glitchy and blocky. In the end I realised it was the brand of cds I was using (Imation). Now I use Verbatim cds and I can say that they are awesome.

Guess what type of CD's I'm using? IMATION lol, they glitch...
not to bad but they do.
What's with that anyways?
Anyhow I'm gonna pick up a dif brand tomm.
Later.

Well this happens when you use Crappy Disks and when you burn on to high of a Burning speed, if you are useing really cheap CD-R"s then I wouldn"t Burn at higher than 4+ speed, I use High Quality TDK Disks and I don"t burn at faster than 8+ speed , Cuz even with High Quality disks you will get Problems burning on High speed...

I agree with Minion. Don't burn at high speed. Some cheap disks also cause problems.
The best disks I have found, and have noticed this is agreed with in many other forums, is the brands made by RITEK such as DATASAFE.
This goes for both DVDR and CDR. These disks are highly reliable and give great performance regarding playback.


ASHY

I forgot to say it only breaks up when I play it in my DC (dreamcast)
Yes that's my movie player. I think it doesn't have enough power or something.

Are you using the crappy Dreamcast VCD player software or are you using Gyplay?

ASHY

Holy shnikes man.....I am using Imation cds as well. I only buy them cause I thought they were good cds. They seem to scratch less easy than others. WTF!?!??! So it is the cds none-the-less. Looks like I need a new brand. I get them at a heck of a rebate here when they go on sale. NOW WHAT DO I BUY INSTEAD??? Thanx for the help.

What about memorex......they r fairly cheap in price but i think they tend to scratch easily. What about Maxell. Or how about Fuji?

I use GypPlay, but i'm going to get a dvd player here soon, and make vcd's.
Can't stand those break up's. BTW tested a "TDK" brand cd-r on DC, same result's as the "Imation"

Well then the Problem is Probably your Dream Cast...You can get a DVD Player that Plays Most Formats For well under $100...Maybe it is time for an Investment..

Well i bought some Verbatim DatalifePlus and burned the VCD part one at 4x with my Liteon 40x burner. Still i get blockyness. Not at same parts though as before. Maybe its the VCDEasy program when i add chapters. It could be the culprit???

GUESS WHAT.....ITS VCDEasy PROGRAM. Its making my hard work turn to krap. So much for adding chapters!!!

I use VCDEasy with Most of my Non-standard SVCD"s and Have never had a Problem with it..Did you burn at a VERY Low speed??? and there are Lots of other Programs that will add Chapters besides VCDEasy, Like Most Ulead Authoring Programs...

Could you give me exact names of some of these programs? I would like to keep chapters but VCDEasy is not working well for me. I burned the one test VCD at 4x on Verbatim DatalifePLUS cd-r's and they got blocky on me when adding chapters. I am using a LiteON 40x burner. I then burnt the same VCD but at 24x with out chapters and it played perfectly the whole time.

I have an SVCD movie file in BIN/CUE format. (assume the file works).

When I burn it to NERO everything appears to burn fine but my DVD player will not play the movie back. It says "no disk".

I then tried using IsoBuster to extract the MPEG from the BIN/CUE (using the option 'filter only the....'). The resulting MPEG file will load in windows media player, but while the sound works fine, the picture is only a happy face, a constact still picture of a happy face.

I then try opening the MPEG file in TMPGEnc but it says 'unsupported'.

Any suggestions?

Try using vcdgear to extract the mpeg from the bin/cue and see if it works.

Forget VCDGear that software causes more problems than it fixes.
The best way I have found to extract MPEGs from bin files is to use this small app called DAEMON tools for opening images.
http://www.daemon-tools.com/main.htm
Simply install it then load your Bin file into it then copy the MPEG to your drive.


ASHY

And when burning Bin/Cue Files with Nero You can"t just burn the Bin and cue file and expect it to play, you have to Burn it as an Image File buy going to "File" to "Burn Image" then navigate to the Cue file...and VCDEasy is Good at Extracting Mpegs for Bin/Cue files also...

Using Avisynth 2.07 tp Frameserve an XVid to TMPEG v2.510 (and I've tried a couple of others as well). As it goes TMPG does open the Xvid OK, but what I'm trying to do is sample a couple of seconds of video per minute (using sampler.dll in Avisynth) to produce a representative sample of 40-50 mins of video (a bit of action, a bit of titles etc). The idea is to then be better able to predict what CQ setting to use to fill a CDR as I've always had to do this by trial and error.

Anyway thats the background, the problem is that I can't get Avisynth to reliably frameserve. One time it will work, the next it won't. There doesn't appear to be any rhyme or reason to it. Frameserving with VDub works fine (but doesn't have sampler.dll available) so it isn't useful for this purpose. I've tried a couple of test scripts with just "version()" inthe script as its the simplest script I can think of, but even this is very hit and miss.

Has anyone here any experience of frameserving with AVIsynth and can you think of anything I've missed.

Thoughts appreciated.

It could be your path.
AVIsynth doesn't like spaces in it's path neither does it like long paths.
For example AVIsynth doesn't like: AVISource("C:folder1folder2folder3 est file")
It would prefer: AVIsource("C:folder est_file")

If you can put your source files and any AVIsynth filters in a folder in the root of your drive.

ASHY

Also create the .AVS file in the root or a folder in the root of your drive.

ASHY

And I have read that Disableing the "Direct show" will make AVS Files work Better...

Yeah, already tried the Direct Show switch - no joy with that one unfortunately. There wre spaces in the path, and I've removed them, and no joy there either.

I'm guessing that there has to be something misconfigured or broken in TMPGEnc, as Vdub, sevral media players, Nandub (I could go on here, there are more)will play the file correctly. I suppose another possibility is a shagged codec, I've had TMPG misbehave with some codecs before.

The strange thing is that the test file I've made only has the VideoSource set, and when you attempt to load the file the TMPG window will change size (presumably to allow it to show the video source at correct aspect ratio), and the stream type check box selector in the bottom right hand corner will change to video only, so it seems to be making some sense of it.

Have you tried installing the readavs filter?
http://math.berkeley.edu/~benrg/avisynth/tmpgenc-readavs.zip

ASHY

Yup, tried that no joy (I think readavs was intended for use with older versions of TMPG that didn't have avs and vdr support built in, but gave it a shot anyway). I'm gonna install this all on another machin and see how I go. I'm almost certain its a winblows registry/codec problem as these have made TMPG fall over before.

Well what allways works great for fixing problems like this for me is to do a Total re-install of my OS, then just install the Programs that I Need..I know it is a Bit of a Hassle But it is still faster that trying to fix the problem for a few days and then haveing to reinstall the OS anyways...

When I tried to convert .AVS files made by DVD2AVI, I got green picture, but if I read them with Windows Media Player the picture is OK . Also in the TMPG (2.510) Preview option, no picture during, only green all over frames . Already made the VFAPI plug-in Direct Show to 2 priority and the same .
Thank you to anyone could help me .

Firstly DVD2AVI does Not make AVS Files it makes it makes D2V files, You must mean that you are Frameserveing D2V files with AVISynth to Tmpgenc,But WHY!!! Tmpgenc will Accept the Straight D2V file without any AVISynth Frameserveing, So Just load the D2V file directly into Tmpgenc and Your Problem should be solved But if you are Still stuck on Useing AVISynth you will have to Disable the "Direct Show file Reader" In the VFapi Plugins before the AVS File will Load...

I want to convert an avi to an mpeg.. but whenever I try to set the avi file to the video source it says that it cannot be opened or is unsupported. But my friend tried the exact same file on his comp and it worked fine.. so what's the deal??

Do you have the Correct Codecs installed to decode the File????? and if you do then Try this ,Go to "Options" to "Enviromental Settings" to "Vfapi Plugins" and Raise the Priority of the "Direct Show File Reader" to "2".. this should get the file loaded..

Ah great... that did the trick.. thanks

TQ... I helped me toooo.....
Why was this not the default as most file downloaded from Kazaa Lite is in avi format ???

I had the same problem, but when I tried changing the priority, the program crashed instead of saying it could not read the avi (which I am able to watch). What could be the problem here?

I had the same problem, but when I tried changing the priority, the program crashed instead of saying it could not read the avi (which I am able to watch). What could be the problem here?

when encoding an avi to mpeg2 everything used to be fine, but now i come back to my computer to see how a batch encode is going and it is always rebooted (recovered from a serious error in xp) but tmpgenc has actually finished the encoding of the first file and saved it.....

i tried to do a full uninstall and reinstall. but with no joy??

anyone know whats going off?

Maybe see what Happens if you Dont Batch encode and see if you have the same Problem...

Many times my computer also reboots but it is not always. I wrote to TMPG support but got no answer. On my own experience there is no relation between the reboot and the conversion been made through batches. It does happen on any configuration. The most probable reason I have identified is that they happen most commonly on very large avi files. However, now I am getting another consistent error: TMPG gives me a read error mask pointing to an each time different TMPG address. I had this kind of error before but it was more sporadically. TMPG does quality conversion? Yes. But the hassle and the hundreds of hours I have already spent debugging it kill me. It turned that the $48 I paid for it became too expensive.

TMPG isn't the problem. Your PC setup is. For whatever reason your setup is causing problems.
I don't get this problem and neither do the many thousands of others using TMPG.
If I were you I would do a clean install of your system then maintain it with good houskeeping to prevent any more problems.

ASHY

Well, I cannot tell by Gary but I am a 27 years in the field electronic engineer. I know computers from inside out. I started designing PCs back on 1981 and I still developing systems nowadays; curiously I work on the same building were IBM developed the IBM-PC in 1984. Therefore, I can tell if my PC is clean and lean and it is. I assembled this PC last January and it uses an ASUS A7N8X with XP2100+, 512 MB of Corsair Xtreme DDR 333, video card ATI 9700PRO, DVD Sony DRU500A, 450GB on fast HDs, and Windows XP Professional. If TMPGenc is not the problem, how I can convert movies using Pinnacle Studio, Sonic MyDVD, ShowBiz, Ulead Studio? Certainly if it is not, it is part of the problem. If you know what setup could be causing the problem that would help. I just bought and installed Norton SystemWorks 2003 Professional and Norton could be causing it, but I cannot be sure of that since not even Symantec admits that they also have problems.

Thanks,

John

All I can say is that these sort of problems only seem to happen with AMD processors and certain boards.
You will notice there is another post by OCJ having a similar problem and unusually enough has an ASUS motherboard and an AMD processor.

ASHY

OK, yesterday night I could find a very significant problem. I had been around the reboot + 'read error' problems for more than a week. Because the hard disk where I am storing the avi is new (I mounted it on Feb 08), I could never imagine that the problem was fragmentation! The 19GB avi file was 68% fragmented, causing TMPG to either reboot or cause those read errors. It took me hours and 3 pass to defragment the disk but after that TMPG ran without errors.

Other suggestions to Gary:
(1) Find if your CPU is not overheating during encoding. TMPG is a heavy software and, in my case where I have 4 fans, the CPU temperature reaches 60C. Anyway, you have to find your own CPU threshold and make sure you are within the safe zone;
(2) Try to convert the AVI into MSDVTYPE2 by using the free conversion software that Canopus USA is offering if the file is TYPE1DV;
(3) If your are using AMD remove the check box of TMPGEnc Plus - Option - Environmental setting - CPU - 'Enable SSE.'
(4) Be sure your AVI file is not fragmented!

Hi there,

had a problem yesterday with converting an AVI to MPEG2. AVI runs fine with PowerDVD. I used VirtualDub to extract the sound to WAV and then used TMPGEnc Plus to convert AVI+WAV to MPEG2. When playing the MPEG2 file (again with PowerDVD) afterwards, video and sound were all of a sudden out of sync...
Installed are DivX, Xvid, Nimo Lite CodecPack and PowerDVD, so all necessary codecs should be available...

Any idea?

is any part of the outputted mpg file in sync. i.e is say the first 20 minutes ok. Often what happens is that when you encode the avi with a seperate sound file, any defect in the avi file, say a slight pause in the file will result in the sound file being out of sync to the video. If you are making two output files, what i tend to do is, find out the moment of time where the sound and video lose their sync, and encode the second output file from that point.

Understand? if not email me: mattross@safe-mail.net

Thanks for the info... i suspect my files are fragmented, but am not sure on how to check for sure?? But they are only 700 megs no where near the size of John's.

I have seen messages where people have had similar problems.. and the people reply seem to think it maybe due to the avi files in question.

These avi's should be checked in vdub for bad frames and resized and frame served to tmpgenc. (apparently?)

Gonna check it out and see what happens!

p.s. I have an AMD machine but the sse controls are greyed out, for obvious reasons.

Hi :)
I have a problem with tmpgenc when I try to encode xvid files into any kind of mpg file. It gives me an error when I try to load the xvid file and won't let me encode it at all. This is the error (copy and paste the link into your address bar or it won't work)
http://www.theforumisdown.com/uploadfiles/0103/tmpgencerror.gif
This all started one day out of nowhere. I have no clue what triggered it but I do know that I could encode xvid files before. I thought it was just a windows error because I fooled around with my windows xp bootscreens and themes so much. After a few weeks I reinstalled windows xp to fix the problem. Oddly even reformating my whole computer didn't fix this. Do I need a filter or something? I was able to do this before without a filter. Any help is greatly appreciated. Thanks.

This is a Common error with XVid files But I don"t know what causes it accept Just being XVid files..What I would Sugest is to Try Frame serveing the File to tmpgenc with a frame server like Virtual Dub or AVISynth...

you can get a codec from some where, and i don't know why but after i downloaded the codec, i found that tmpgenc encoded the avi file ok, although sometimes i would get no sound in the output.

Without the Codec he couldn"t even watch the Movie in the First Place so I"m sure that isn"t the Problem...

I get same Error with xvid files. Lemme know if ya figure anything out.

Try uninstalling your other DIVX/XVID codecs and try FFDSHOW instead.
FFDSHOW can be found here: http://cutka.szm.sk/ffdshow/about.html

ASHY

Had this myself (well, an error in the same file, not quite sure of the code though). Removing all my codecs and reinstalling the ones I needed fixed it.

Thanks for the help. The codec I am using is Nic's Xvid codec. I have always used this codec and it has always worked fine. I just find it odd that I could encode xvid files before. I looked over my whole computer and there is nothing that I changed when this problem started. I'll try getting the ffdshow filter but I've heard nasty things about it like lots of artifacts in movies and such. If it starts working I'll let you know.

Ok, I havn't tried the ffdshow filter yet. Does ffdshow have an unistaller? anyway, I tried reinstalling my xvid codec but nothing changed. Is there anything else I would need to reinstall, I can't think of anything. I tried frameserving and everything seemed to work smoothly but when I made a test mpg file the audio and video was extremely glitchy/laggy.

Yes FFDSHOW is easily uninstalled. Don't know where you heard about those things about FFDSHOW but I have never come across any such material or had problems.
In fact FFDSHOW is more likely to correct or prevent artifacts not create them.

ASHY

Alright, everything is working now. I installed the ffdshow filter and it fixed every problem. No more tmpgenc errors or anything. Thanks so much Ashy for the suggestion and everyone else.

Glad it worked out.

ASHY