If I want the very best quality mpeg2 file to burn to a DVD-R, is the DVD-NTSC template the thing to use? Should any filters (noise, etc.) be selected? (I noted when going through the wizard to make a VCD it said the noise filter usually resulted in a better compression product).

Overall question is what are the settings I need to produce the best video possible (with no regard to file size or time to compress?

Same question for mpeg 1 to play on a PC: What are ideal settings?

Thanks,

Oscar

If you want the best quailty and don"t care about size or time,there are a few general things you can do but each file has it own characteristics that warent different settings..but what i would do is do a 2 pass vbr with minimum of 3000kbs max of 9000kbs and average of 7000kbs, use the noise filter, choose the de-interlace option to the setting that looks best, I usualy try a few different configurations and encode a couple of minutes of my movie in a scene with lots of movement and see which ones look best..I spend more time trying to find the best settings than time encodeing, but I"m a bit of a perfectionist and hate it when you know that your movie could have looked better..so it is a lot of trial and error.....

Thanks Minion! That's exactly the kind of information I was looking for. I am currently trying a test run with 2 pass, noise filter, VBR, and rate of 6,000. But the idea of doing 20 seconds or so with several settings sounds like the best way to go.

thanks!

Will 9000 kbps video always be a legal rate for DVD ?
According to this spec http://www.panoramafirm.com.pl/serwis/dvd/faq/dvdvid.pdf
and also this info http://www.linuxtv.org/dvd/html/nemec_dvd.html
the max DVD stream data rate is 9.8 Mb/s for video+audio+subpictures (subtitles?) and 10.08 Mbps overall max including control data. I had always been using 8000 kbps as the maximum, because I seem to recall having playback trouble with a test using 9000 kbps video. Is it just my player? I assume it depends what audio bitrate you choose also (I used the max 384kbps, MPEG1 layer 2 because my audio track (music) is critical).

hi...i want to set the DC Compression to 10 because it is at 8 right now but i can't do it..everything seems to start out fine.....i hit load and go into Extra and then double click Unlock Tenplate and change the number from 8 to 10 in DC Compression...however, when in go to File and chose Project Wizard and then chose Ntsc Film and do everything i am supposed to on how to make a svcd movie the DC compression go back to 8....how do i put this to 10 when i'm ready to encode..thank you and have a nice day

You have to unlock it after you have chosen a template and then change it to 10 not before.

ASHY

hi ...i loaded the NTSC film template and then i loaded the Unlock template but i still have a problem i; can't not get into the Source Range section to use the "Start frame and End Frame" UNLESS i close all that and load the Project Wizard which will bring me to the Source Range section but the DC Compression will go back to 8.. thank you...PS i've been using DC Compression 8 to make svcd but you're supposed to use 10...what i want to ask is if there's is a loss in picture quality and is it ok to use 8 with svcd movies...Please help

Actually it depends on the type of movie which DC precision setting you use, but I always use 10 anyway and I doubt you would notice the difference with SVCD.

What do you mean you cant get into the source range section?

All you have to do is load your template then load the unlock.mcf template to unlock the settings then to to use the 'source range' filter just double click it and it will open.
Or the other way around is to set up the movie with the project wizard and then unlock it with the unlock template and change the DC setting.

ASHY

Hello,
Some time when i tried to encode a Divx, i choose the source and TMPGenc give directly the audio. In my case for some divx, i cannot have the audio. When i tried to load audio manually, he say : cannot open or not support !!
I have de Divx codec 4.12 and on my second pc thjis same divx pass !!!!
Can you explain me why ??
I try to find a solution, but realy i don't have...
The configuration is exactly the same ...

If you need some other info, you can contact me.
Sorry for English, is not my natural language ...

Thanks a lot
Bruno

It is possible the audio is VBR mp3 or ac3 which TMPG doesn't like unless you have the correct codecs installed to decode it, which is probably why it works on your other PC.
Try extracting the audio to wav with Virtualdub and load that as your audio source.

ASHY

Yes, I had the same problem. The reason is Bill Gates :)

MS Media Player installs Fraunhofer Layer 3 Codec by strange way : codec is present in Control Panel-Multimedia-Devices, but does not work in Video For Windows subsystem. So it is impossible to use it in any VFW-based apps, such as TMGEnc, VirtualDub or even MS Active Movie (mplayer.exe)

How to solve : find Radium MP3 Codec (hacked Fraunhofer) and install it. It is the same Fraunhofer MPEG Layer3, but it installs correctly.

The simplest way to find codec is typing "ra-codec12.zip" in any FTP search engine such as www.filesearch.ru.

Hi,

I am converting a lot of 352x240 23,97 fps to 352x288 PAL 25 fps. On my system as it was yesterday, it did 1 second of video in about 5 seconds. I had a lot of different mpg codecs installed on that PC , but I had to re-install because of a softwareproblem.
I did a clean install, installed only the necessary software and TMPeg and Virtual Dub.
I restarted the encoding and now it takes about 30 seconds to encode 1 second of video.
What can be the problem here ?

Aart

Make sure you haven't got the Motion search precision setting to 'high' or 'highest'.
Check to make sure you are not doing a 2 pass encode and go to the enviromental settings and check if the SSE and MMX optimizations are checked.

ASHY

Oh and as a tip.
You will find that if you change the framerate of a movie with TMPG for example from 23.976 fps to 25 fps, you will notice that the movie has little jerks when it plays.
You can't just change the framerate as simply as that.

ASHY

>Make sure you haven't got the Motion search precision setting to 'high' or 'highest'.
>Check to make sure you are not doing a 2 pass encode and go to the enviromental settings and check if the SSE and MMX optimizations are checked.
>
>ASHY

Motion search : normal
No 2 pass encoding and SSE and MMX are both ON.
Actually.... the settings are still as they were before I had to re-install.

>Oh and as a tip.
>You will find that if you change the framerate of a movie with TMPG for example from 23.976 fps to 25 fps, you will notice that the movie has little jerks when it plays.
>You can't just change the framerate as simply as that.
>
>ASHY

I just have downloaded a lot (more than 400) mpg's which are all between 2 and 25 MB each. They are in NTSC 23.976 fps format and all have different soundstreams. I want them all to be PAL VCD compatible. I converted more than 300 already and must say that I didn't notice the little jerks on my standalone DVD player in the smaller files. In the longer ones there are every now and then a few jerks, but considering the content of the files (ahum !) that's not a problem :-)

Aart

Are these MPEGs MPEG1 or MPEG2?
If I was you I would completely delete TMPG from my system and re-install the new version again.
Also check to make sure you don't have any filters checked. Some of these can slow down your encoding considerably.

30 secs for 1 sec of video is far to long.
What are your system specs?

ASHY

>Are these MPEGs MPEG1 or MPEG2?

MPEG 1 >>>> see first post

>If I was you I would completely delete TMPG from my system and re-install the new version again.

I will try that coming evening.

>Also check to make sure you don't have any filters checked. Some of these can slow down your encoding considerably.
>

No filters are used.

>30 secs for 1 sec of video is far to long.
>What are your system specs?
>

Pentium III 500 Mhz with 384 MB Ram.

>ASHY

Some extra information :
Before I re-installed I had several encoders and editing software on the system.
A few of these titles : Panasonic Encoder, Divx 5, Ulead Media Studio, Ulead Picture Show, Win DVD, M1 and M2 Edit pro, DVMpeg, Roxio Videopack, complete Dr. Mercury Videopack, DVDx 1.8 and I think I forgot a few.
Is it possible that one of these programs/codecs influence the speed of TMPeg in a positive way ?

Aart

I'm not being funny about this, but nowhere in your first post does it state your MPEG's are MPEG1. It only gives the frame sizes which could be either MPEG1 or MPEG2.

Anyway I think there is a problem with your system if re-installing TMPG doesn't work.

I doubt any other programs you had installed prior to re-installing your system would have influenced the speed of encoding as I used to have a P3 500 with 128mb and encoding a movie would take about 4 or 5 times longer than the length of the original movie.
So a 1 second clip would take 4-5 secs to encode which is the speed you originally had and I didn't have the programs you had installed.

ASHY

>I'm not being funny about this, but nowhere in your first post does it state your MPEG's are MPEG1. It only gives the frame sizes which could be either MPEG1 or MPEG2.
>

You're correct. Because I only work with VCD or SVCD compatible mpegs, I forgot that you can encode them different too ! Sorry !

>Anyway I think there is a problem with your system if re-installing TMPG doesn't work.
>
>I doubt any other programs you had installed prior to re-installing your system would have influenced the speed of encoding as I used to have a P3 500 with 128mb and encoding a movie would take about 4 or 5 times longer than the length of the original movie.
>So a 1 second clip would take 4-5 secs to encode which is the speed you originally had and I didn't have the programs you had installed.
>
>ASHY
>
>

Okay, the mystery continues.......
This morning I re-installed M1 and M2 edit and I changed one setting in TMPeg : I made the temporary, input hd and output hd all the same.
And......... the speed was back !!!!

I saw that by installing M2 edit, some of the files of DirectX (8.1 !) were overwritten.
Could that be the solution or was the drive change in TMPeg the solution ?

I will put back the drive options as they originally were.....
temporary : C
input : E
output : D

And let you know what happens.....

But not now...... busy encoding at full speed again :-)

best wishes,

Aart

I would guess it's the drive change and would suspect that your input drive E: or your output D: is a slow drive or they are on the same IDE channel.
This doesn't work because the information to and from both drives still has to travel up and down the same channel and cable and one has to wait for the other slowing down the transmission between the two.

If that's the case I would install the input and output on different channels.

Which did you change to?

ASHY

>I would guess it's the drive change and would suspect that your input drive E: or your output D: is a slow drive or they are on the same IDE channel.
>This doesn't work because the information to and from both drives still has to travel up and down the same channel and cable and one has to wait for the other slowing down the transmission between the two.
>
>If that's the case I would install the input and output on different channels.
>
>Which did you change to?
>
>ASHY

Changed all to E:
Did a check a few minutes ago and indeed it was the drive change !

Perhaps something to mention in the FAQ ?

Well, I am at least glad the problem is over !

Thanks for the help !

kind regards,

Aart

Tmpge now recongnizes the .D2V but it is still saying it is unsupported
is there a setting to change or somethig

please help

Thanx

What do mean it recognizes it, but it still says unsupported.
It wouldn't load in the first place if it wasn't supported.
You are obviously doing something wrong somewhere.

Post the steps you are taking to load the file.
Start from when you first rip the VOBS to your hard drive and be detailed.

ASHY

Please refrain from double posting on the same subject. It gets highly confusing and is unecessary.
Stick to the same thread your problem will still be answered.

ASHY

if ur useing DVD2AVI to make them .dv2 and ac3 .wav files try reinstalling DVD2AVI or TMPGenc or hell reinstall both of them. worked for me. something about the .vfp file cant be moved from the directory causes the problem

If you're using DVD2AVI then the problem goes away if you install both programs in the same directory.

The reason for that NewtronX is because you only need the DVD2AVI.VFP in the same directory as TMPGenc.exe

ASHY

Sorry correction Newton.

ASHY

I have done everything right and the dv2 file shows up in TMPG, but when I click it TMPG says it is an unsupported file type. I have done everything right, but it still doesn't work. WHATS UP WITH THAT?

Have a look at the post above for a possible solution.

ASHY

i've made a mpeg2-file with TMPGenc 2.54a, MPEG-2 480x576 25fps VBR 1600kbps, Layer-2 44100Hz 128kbps.
now i'm trying to cut it with the mpeg-tools, but the slider at the edit-sheet don't let me move through the file. If i enter a start- or endtime manually, the program writes the hole file, not the range i've specified ... what am i doing wrong?

Your probably not doing anything wrong, the "cut" function does this quite often,my advice is to use different software to cut your mpeg"s, or use the source range while encodeing so you can encode your movie in parts...

Thank you!

I have succeed in making the first VCD: I have cut the mpg movie file and made the first smaller file which can be hold by one cd.
But I can not make the second CD: Each time I start merge file from any point other than start point(00:00:00), program freeze before it start to record file. The Version I am using is 2.54.37.135.
Can You tell me how to make the second part of movie? Or Can I try older vision?

What makes you think it is freezing.
It takes a while before it starts to produce the second half because it has to seek to the point of the cut first.

ASHY

ASHY's right just let the program work. if nothing happens in shit...say 10min then most likey it crashed or the file is hella big

Just before the edited file store to HDD, the porgram stopped, I press Ctrl-Alt-Del, message shows Tmpgenc not response. This is what I mean freezing. I have tried 4 times even restart computer, same result. So I guess this is a bug of Tmpgenc

No it's not a bug.
This problem has been posted a few times before and the problem was solved by completely deleting TMPG from your system first then download a fresh copy and install that.

ASHY

on my system the task manager displays alot of crap (not responding) dont worry about if. if you notice alot of lights blinking let them blink for a lil longer. patience here

Hello,
I am using the Pinnacle DC10+ card to capture and edit video to avi format. I am then using tmpgenc to encode to mpeg2 format and finally using vcdeasy to burn an SVCD disk.
When I encode the captured video alone into mpeg2 format and burn to disk, the audio is fine. However, when I add titles before the start of the video clip using the dc10+ software and then encode to mpeg2, the audio is distorted (the audio level is higher and there is noticable distortion in high frequency notes).
I suspect that the problem is with tmpgenc since the avi file with the titles seems to play fine on the computer. Since there is no soundtrack on the titles themselves, could this be causing a problem for tmpgenc ? Does it judge the audio level by sensing the first few frames of the movie ? If that is so, it would explain why the level would be higher with the titles than without.
I am using constant quality (CQ) for doing my encoding.

Is there any way to fix this ?

Thanks.

Dipak

What are "titles"?

I have created a MPEG using Flask. I want to use the MPEG on a VCD so that I can play the disk on a home DVD player. The information I have says you have to cut the MPEG into two smaller files so that they will fit on a CD-R. Can anyone tell me how to do this using TMPGEnc v. 2.54?

Thanks

Use MPEG tools from the FILE menu, then use the merge&cut option. This allows you to select a section of the original movie and write it to a new file.

Richard

Forgot to mention I've had some problems with sound/vision synch using merge and cut. If anyone else has seen this, I would appreciate a workaround.

Also, since VCD takes about 10Mb per minute, you must have a pretty big MPEG file (>65 mins) if it needs chopping.

Richard

I can't load the .mov quicktime file, why?

Search with "quicktime" or "mov" at the top of this BBS.

Thanks~~

when do i have to cut a movie in two parts??? after encoding or while encoding. please give me some information thx

Merge & cut

or

source range (when encoding)


BTW, This is too general question I think...

I prefer to do it after encoding because of the time it takes to encode. I can set the machine going bfore I go to bed and leave it running all night and all the next day. When I come home there's nice big MPEG file all ready to be sliced at an appropriate point for burning to VCD.

You do have a little more control over exactly where it is cut is you use source-range though. It's personal preference really.

I assumed you weren't looking for the obvious answer to your question, which would have been "when it's too big"... ;-)

Just a thought - you could set your source points on the same file in two separate projects and then batch encode overnight and voila 2 separate files, perfectly cut and no need for extra diskspace/time..

John