tatonka
2010-03-11 17:59:25 ( ID:xo8ixfhk0dm )
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Hi,
I am trying to burn an .avi that I created with Windows Movie Maker to DVD using TMPGENC Authoring Works 4. he .avi plays beautiful on it's own but as soon as I burn it to DVD through TAW the transitions, especially dissolving from one scene to another, becomes choppy, like slow motion, for the duration of the transition. Now this is only during transitions that this happens, otherwise the rest of the film is fine. The transitons were made in WMM and exported as on avi file. Any ideas why TAW is doing this to the transtions? Please help as I have burned through a large number of blank DVDs trying to get this right and nothing is working. Thanks!
tkrave
2010-03-11 18:48:32 ( ID:lgrl8ryjzyl )
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Do you know what codec your avi file is using? It might be that TAW4 is using a different codec than Windows Media Player to decode the video. Use Gspot to figure out which codec it's using.
Also, do you have software that allows you to play DVDs on your computer? If so, you can just output your video without burning it so you don't waste discs. You may need to create a disc image (you can create one with the TAW4 disc writing tool) and then use a program like Daemon to load the image as if it were a real DVD.
tkrave
2010-03-11 19:53:10 ( ID:lgrl8ryjzyl )
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What version of Movie Maker are you using? The one I have only outputs as WMV and it works fine in TAW4.
tatonka
2010-03-12 14:18:39 ( ID:xo8ixfhk0dm )
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Hi tk!
Thanks SO MUCH for the reply! I was hoping omeone could help me! I have WMM version 6.0 and I just downloaded G-Spot and loaded the .avi in question. Here is a screencap of my G-Spot results after plugging in the .avi with the slow transitions through TAW...
http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x61/yanalou/gspotreading.jpg
tatonka
2010-03-14 15:31:06 ( ID:xo8ixfhk0dm )
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Still here tkrave? I still desperately need help!
tkrave
2010-03-15 17:48:13 ( ID:lgrl8ryjzyl )
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In Gspot, enable codec interaction in the settings; that way it will tell you the codec status and solutions to errors.
How long is your movie? Your Gspot screenshot says your file is 21.9 GB and it's DVD quality? Is the file actually that big? Gspot says there's 16.9 GB of unneeded data, so something strange is going on there.
I don't have WMM 6 so I can't recreate your problem at the moment.
Any chance you can upload a short, sample video with the same characteristics as your problem video?
tatonka
2010-03-17 15:50:21 ( ID:xo8ixfhk0dm )
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Hi tk,
Well G-Spot keeps crashing when I try to enable codec interaction. I get this message on a black screen...
Warning: DirectShow crashed while GSpot was attempting to obtain information about a codec.
This is usually due to damaged, misconfigured, conflicting, or poorly written codec drivers. It is possible, perhaps even likely, that other media players will crash when they attempt to play this file as well, as most of them will also use DirectShow. GSpot was able to intercept the crash, and has attempted to identify the codec or filter involved; uninstalling or reinstalling this codec or filter may solve the problem.
The codec was tentatively identified as:
C:\Windows\system32\imaadp32.acm
Unknown video codec #10
What my DVD is going to be is two seaprate tracks. Track 1 is the main film and it runs 1 hour 48 minutes. Track 2 is made up of extra features and the total length of them is 17 minutes and 25 seconds.
I cannot upload a sample of the problem because that really IS the problem...the choppy transitions only happen on DVD...not in my PC or TMPGENC previews...just when it's put onto DVD and played on TV do I see it. It's really annoying because everything else looks beautiful...I almost want to simply remove all the transtions from the original WMM project and re-render but there's no way to lock the timeline so that when I remove the transitions it doesn't throw the entire project off timing wise. It's ridiculous that once you edit nearly two hours of a movie that if you want to go and fix something at the begining, it messes up the entire timeline. So I am kind of stuck between a rock and a hard place.
I am so close to being done if not for this transition problem.
tkrave
2010-03-17 17:50:27 ( ID:lgrl8ryjzyl )
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Ok, so your file definitely shouldn't be 21 GB based on the length of your videos.
And the file plays fine in the Simulation stage of Authoring Works?
When you import your video into Authoring Works 4, which file reader is it using? (you can see which file reader it's using in the Clip Properties screen under the video file location.)
Did you change any track settings such as bitrate?
Also, I wasn't asking for a video showing the problem, I meant I wanted a sample of the problem area of the video (i.e. the transition) with the same bitrate, framerate, dimensions, etc. Then, I'll try and output it and see if I get the same choppy playback.
mathew lisett
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2010-03-18 09:34:54 ( ID:1uuvxkl/gf. )
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i can bet you its a codec issue.
unistall all codecs, reboot then clean system with somethign like tuneuputilities, download the newest klite codec pack from codec-guide, reboot and then re try what your doing.
tatonka
2010-03-18 14:40:34 ( ID:xo8ixfhk0dm )
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Hi tk,
Yes I did change the bitrates as seen below.
http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x61/yanalou/TAWsettings.jpg
Now when you say look for "clip properties" in the "file location" are you talking about within TAW or the file on my PC where the .avi comes from? I cannot find a clip properties selection. All I can do is right click on the original .avi (outside TAW4) and get those properties but I think you are asking about something else. So when you say "file location" are you talking about the "Source" page in TAW4 or are you indeed talking about outside of TAW4?
Now when I render the orignal movie from WMM...I do it as .avi because it is my understanding that that is the best format to maintain the high quality. Is this perhaps a bad idea? Should I publish the movie as a diffeent file type?
The transtion is a simple dissolve, where one scene is dragged and overlapped on the timeline so that the first fades into the second. The info about framerate and such can be seen by clicking the link above. It is only during the "overlapped" portion of the transition that everything slows down until it becomes one scene alone.
Hi Matthew!
Thanks for the advice. I am scared to death to start deleting codecs and such as I don't know how and I am not familiar at all with that. I'm certain I would screw up things and make my probelems even worse.
tkrave
2010-03-18 18:27:17 ( ID:lgrl8ryjzyl )
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This is the Clip Properties window I was talking about (file reader highlighted):
http://i43.tinypic.com/1zmdmjm.png
It might be good to try outputting as something other than an AVI in WMM, just to see if that is indeed the problem.
As matthew says, uninstalling and updating your codecs might be a good idea.
mathew lisett
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2010-03-18 23:11:21 ( ID:1uuvxkl/gf. )
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tatonka
give me a shout via my email or my website with the contact form, and ill give you a hand via using teamviewer.
no charge.
tatonka
2010-03-19 17:39:56 ( ID:xo8ixfhk0dm )
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Hey tk,
Oh OK, that screen says "DirectShow filereader" tk. I will try and publish the film as "DVD Quality" in WMM instead of .avi then and then burn a DVD through TAW4 and see what happens.
If that doesn't work..I maytake you up on that Matthew! Thanks SO MUCH for your help guys.
tatonka
2010-03-20 15:51:36 ( ID:xo8ixfhk0dm )
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Okay guys, I just finished rendering a DVD, this time using a .wmv file instead of the original .avi. The transitions are normal now but now the entire video has a choppy look to it when the camera moves. The picture quality is a bit lossier as well. So I don't think the .wmv idea is going to work unless you guys have another setting I should try. This .wmv has the following settings applied in TAW4:
Max br 9400
br 5150
min br 1550
interlace
top field first
two-pass vbr
tatonka
2010-03-23 23:31:50 ( ID:xo8ixfhk0dm )
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Okay guys. Here's a screenshot that says what codec it uses:
http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x61/yanalou/codec.jpg
Now how do I know which one Windows uses in their own DVD Maker program..which does publish this movie in excellent perfect quality. So there's something in TAW4 causing this...maybe if I change this codec to whatever Windows uses I could duplicate the DVD writing process as it's done in WMM "through" TAW4. Thoughts?
tkrave
2010-03-24 17:26:33 ( ID:lgrl8ryjzyl )
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Well, it's hard to say what WMM is using. I would think that it's using DirectShow codecs since it's a Microsoft product but who knows?
You might need a different DVSD codec. Try Cedocida DV codec if you don't have it already.
tatonka
2010-03-27 14:28:41 ( ID:xo8ixfhk0dm )
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Hey Tk,
Well I tried to burn a DVD through WMM just to see how it looked and it isn't as perfect as I remember. The picture quality is a bit lossy. The transitions work this way, but at the expense of a bit poorer video quality.
Now this is probably irrelevant but I should mention that it seems that when one moving scene fades into another moving scene that this problem happens. So I am wondering if it might have something to do with that...where that 2 seconds of overlapped "motion" footage of two different scenes is throwing off the motion setting in TAW...where it is trying to stabilize to different "moving" scenes during a transition that causes the slow motion fade.
Probably irrelevant but I want to be sure I metioned it before we settled upon it beinf a definite codec issue? Does this shed any light on this problem at all? I probably should have mentioned it sooner but I thought it was irrelevant whether there was motion in the two overlapping scenes.
tatonka
2010-04-08 19:05:37 ( ID:xo8ixfhk0dm )
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Any thoughts on my previous comment? Could that be the issue and is there a fix?
tkrave
2010-04-09 19:52:07 ( ID:lgrl8ryjzyl )
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I don't think that should matter too much especially if the transition is already encoded as video. The only thing I can think of is that the bitrate for the transition section is too high which is why I was asking about your bitrates before.
I can't definitively say what the problem is but it won't hurt trying other codecs or following Matthew's advice.
JImPuchai
2010-11-14 11:04:51 ( ID:hcjxkc/jwfg )
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This a tricky one to solve but it is actually very easy to fix.
If you take a look at the frame rate of your *.avi file you will see that is is either NTSC (24 or 30) standard or PAL(25) standard. If you don't want to fully recode your films to a different standard (this is what is causing the pixilation visible at transitions)then burn your output at either NTSC or PAL according to the frame rate of the *.avi file.
Note that modern equipment plays either standard quite perfectly so don't worry about having mixed DVDs.
Sorry this is a late reply but there will be many with the same question.
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