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I noticed that TMPGEnc could make DVDs. What's the difference between TMPGEnc and TMPGEnc DVD Author? And, is the DVD-making in TMPGEnc free or trial? What is the price?
Tmpgenc Plus is an Encoder and Tmpgenc DVD Author is a DVD authoring Program...They are 2 Totally seperate Program that serve 2 seperate Purposes, Were Tmpgenc is used to encode your files to Mpeg2 for DVD, Tmpgenc DVD author adds Menu"s and Chapters to your Movie and Formats it to a Video-TS Folder that then gets burned to DVD..Tmpgenc has No DVD authoring Abilitied and DVD author has no Encodeing abilities so the 2 Programs to 2 totally seperate things.....Cheers
I'm trying to make SVCD from homemade video (PAL) using TMPGEnc Version 2.521.
I have audio out of sync and about 1-3 sec freeze if I encode 2-pass VBR mpeg
on standalone DVD/SVCD player (PHILIPS).
Configuration for VBR:
Average: 2520
Maximum: 2520
Minimum: 0
Max pass: 2 pass (old type)
I thought it might be a sound problem, so I split and reencoded sound using
192 kbit/sec (was 224). Then merged using bbMPEG and it displayed
interesting things. bbMPEG says that maximum bitrate is about 3012 kbit/sec
and average is 2520. I reencoded in CBR (2520 kbit/sec) and problem is gone.
Can someone explain why maximum bitrate run over specified 2520 in VBR mode?
Is there any tool that can help analyse VBR MPEG file in order to
find out max/min/avg bitrate?
Well First off you should Not set your Average and Max to the Same Value because that defeates the Purpose of useing 2-Pass VBR ..There is a Little Tool called "Bitrate Viewer" "http://www.tecoltd.com/bitratev.htm" that will analize the Max and Min bitrates...Tmpgenc does not have the best Bitrate controll and has a Habbit of Going over the Max bitrate specified especially with the settings you were useing.....
OK so i'm trying to make the 2nd part of my vcd movie right, and i'm trying to split the movie so i try move that thing to the end frame and then when i try to click set end frame it's frozen!!! I have restarted many times but nothing and it worked before
I have HD video source material with a resolution of 1920x1080i that I want to encode in MPEG2. When I feed this to TMPGEnc Plus 2.5 (lastest version and it is license to me), I cannot change the setting from MP&ML (main profile and main level) to MP&HL (main profile and high level). The selection button in the setting page is grayed and cannot be changed. Also, I am not able to increased the bit rate above 8 Mbits/s. My target bit rate is 16 Mbits/s. When I try to encode it, the material is downconverted to 720x480i (NTSC DVD format).
I also have the MainConcept MPEG2 encoder. This encoder allows me to encode in MP&HL and to set the bit rate to 16 Mbits/s. Also the resolution is kept to its original resolution. The quality is very exceptional (it is significantly better than all the hardware HDTV MPEG2 encoder that I have access to). I would like to evaluate other encoder on HD encoding, but so far only MainConcept and AVI2MPEG2 allows it.
I am doing something wrong in setting TMPGEnc Plus?
Can TMPEGEnc Plus be set in MPEG2 MP&HL?
That's Easy. Click on the WORD Profile & Level. A Box will apear, select unlock. Now you can use all Profiles/Levels, higher Resolutions and higher Bitrates.
Thank you. This is great. I did not know why these settings where locked and how I can unlock them.
I unlocked everything. I was able to encode my HD 16x9 1920x1080i material at MP & HL. However even after unlocking the bit rate, I am not able to go above 8 Mbits/s. When I change it, it revert to 8 Mbis/s.
I did a test at 8 Mbits/s with both MainConcept and TMPGEnc. They both looked bad (8 Mbits/s is too low for HD). However the results from the MainConcept is significantly better than TMPGEnc.
Actually I have Had Very Good Results with the Newest Version of the MainConcept encoder, Good enough were files encoded by the 2 were basicly indistinguishable from each other, Then again lots encoders will produce good Quality at high bitrates what sets them appart is how they work at low bitrates....Cheers
I have the lastest version of many MPEG2 encoder (TMPGEnc 2.5 Plus, CCE basic 2.67, MainConcept 1.4, Pinnacle, Ulead, etc). I have evaluated many of these for various material (Standard definition NTSC and High Definition 720p, 1080i).
With the same source material and same target bit rate, here is my rating for
speed: 1) CCE 2) MainConcept 3) Ulead 4) TMPGEnc 5) Pinnacle
quality low bit rate: 1)MainConcept 2) TMPGEnc 3) Pinnacle 4) CCE 5)Ulead
quality high bit rate: 1) MainConcept 2)TMPGEnc & CCE 3) Pinnacle 4) Ulead
I posted previously that I was not able to go above 8 Mbits/s as the target bit rate. I asked the question to Pegasys tech support. They replied to me with the solution. Here is is for others in the same situation:
Click "Load" in the main window, then select "Extra">"unlock.mcf" and open
it, and then you can set your target bit rate is 16 Mbits/s.
I'm trying to make a svcd file with subtitles using TMPGEnc and VobSub 2.23.
When I set the Directshow priority (to the top of the list) in TMPGEnc and press start, TMPGEnc crashes. There is no error massage, just crash. I've tried different versions of TMPGEnc, no help.
I can see the subtitles just fine in Media Player and other players I use thanks to VobSub, but it seems to me that the changing the priority of DirectShow crashes TMPGEnc. The problem hasn't got anything to do with VobSub, cause TMPGEnc hangs every time when DirectShow is on the top of the priority list, even if VobSub is not installed.
Anyone else suffering from this same error?
On my maschine, DirectSHow ist the first one in the List, without any problems. Did you try ffdshow as Decoder for DivX/XviD?
It's a better Idea to use VirtualDub or AVISynth to do any resizings and for including the Subtitles. In VirtualDub you can use the PlugIn TextSub, in AVISynth VSFilter. VobSub itself uses Overlay-Functions to show the Subs, they are not included into the Video, so TMPGEnc can't see them.
Thanks for answering. Yes, TMPGEnc sees the subtitles, if Directshow is the first on the list. I can see subtitles in preview, but for some reason, when I press start -button, the program crashes.
Now I'm doing SVCD like...
1. Use virtualdub and subtitler -plugin
2. Save avi with the hard coded subtitles
3. Convert the package to svcd with TMPGEnc
It works, but I have to do more steps and that takes time :-(
Others have been more successfull with VobSub and TMPGEnc I think reading those forums and sites. 4 example: http://www.dvdrhelp.com/forum/userguides/153058.php
Forget Step 2 of your Methode, you can use VirtualDub's Frameserver to serv the Video directly to TMPGEnc without saving an AVI first.
I know the way descriped in the link you postet, but it's a... um..., shitty way. Naver do anything else than pure Encoding with TMPGEnc. All other things, like filtering, resizing and so on shall be done by using other Tools.
I used TMPGEnc totaly for some weeks now and I realy must say: TMPG has nice features not fount on every tool, but there are bugs everywhere, which exist for so long now. Thousand version numbers have changed since I first encountered some bugs and they still exist... what are they doing from one version to another?
For example: the issue with no sound in the output file when source is a AVI with a mp3 audio track: You get the same answer everywhere: "TMPGEnc can't handle mp3 with VBR". But that's not true since I was able to extract such a mp3 track (yeah: virtualdub direct stream copy) and pass it seperately over to TMPGEnc... result was fine. So why can they not fix this little problem???
Another issue existing for long now: you always should activate "SOURCE RANGE" and specify start point and end point of your movie since TMPGEnc sometimes gets confused by its own default setting "end point = -1" and can't disply the filesize in step 4 of the (realy good) Project Wizard properly. Must be realy hard to fix :-?
This are only few examples which arise the question: "is this comercial piece of software or just a troublemaker you have to pay for".
I'm glad that I could try this software before buying :-)
I'm not glad that bug reports are only accepted from registered users who spend money on this...
So don't get me totaly wrong: I REALY like the ideas of TMPGEnc. But if I would have spend so many bugs on it (in order to get all functions) I already would have thrown my PC out of this window just beside me...
But as I mentioned I REALY like the ideas and features of TMPGEnc and would realy like to see it working fine... last but not least because there is no other software that competes with TMPGEnc (for my purposes).
TMPGEnc is a MPEG-Encoder, and it works perfect.
No propper VBR MP3-Decoding? That isn't a thing a MPEG-Encoder must do. On normal Video-Production, you never have VBR-Audio to be transcodet to MPEG-Audio. You need this Feature only to transcode Videos from the Web - illegal Videos!
And why should a program support illegal things? Jeez, Guys, ANYBODY who asks about VBR MP3-Audio reveals itself as an User of pirated Movies...
Oh, and there is absolutly no problem with Source Range, works perfect... except on suspicious Files.
The reason you are having problems with source range is because your avi file has a corrupt index. When you have an avi with a corrupt index, 99% of the time it was downloaded from a p2p (especially since it has vbr mp3 audio).
There is nothing wrong with TMPGEnc, its your files that have bugs. Buy the DVD next time.
I agree that Most or the So called "Bugs" aren"t Bugs in Tmpgenc But bugs in the Files you are trying to encode...Downloaded Files are the worst Files to try to encode cuz they are usually corrupted in some way and Poeple have this stupid habbit of useing VBR Mp3 audio which AVI wasn"t meant to have VBR audio...If I use Files that I created My Self I never have Problems but with downloaded files I allways have Problems...The Only thing I might call a Bug is that the Merge & Cut sometimes freezes when outputting Mpeg2 files, but this happens only once in a While so it might not even be considered a Bug....Cheers
I also am gonna have to agree with you guys. I have been using TMPG for ages now and very rarely get any problems. I use to when I first started using it because I didn't know how things worked and how the software could be affected by feeding it crap.
Now I know how to use TMPG and what it is and isn't compatible with, it usually works perfect for me.
All these people who claim to have problems with TMPG are usually novices who think you can just bung in any old piece of crap and TMPG will somehow miraculously work with it and produce a beautiful result at the end. No chance and you soon learn this isn't just TMPG. The old addage usually stands 'Crap in Crap out'
Feed TMPG with garbage, install every codec known to man on your system and don't even bother learning how to use TMPG in the first place (IE be lazy and the wizard do it all) and all you WILL get is problems, but these are not TMPG bugs these are USER bugs because they are all caused by inexperienced users who half the time don't even know what a codec is.
In conclusion...learn to use TMPG correctly and it will serve you greatly.
You must mean the "Plus" version...Well the Free Version has Limited Mpeg2 encodeing which Runs out in 30 Days, But the Mpeg1 encodeing works forever, And the Plus Version has access to More Profiles and Levels Like "MP@HL ,MP@LL and HP@HL" which lets you use Larger resolutions Like HDTV Resolution...And it is supposed to have a Better 2-Pass encodeing Method and the Mpeg2 encodeing is Unlimited..So if you Plan on useing Tmpgenc for Mpeg2 encodeing for more than a Month will you have to Purchace the "Plus" version...
Tmpgenc DVD Author and Tmpgenc are to totally different Programs ,Tmpgenc DVD Author is For authoring Mpeg files to DVD ,It is a Very simple Program to use and ok for doing Basic DVD authoring With Basic Menu"s and Chapters...Cheers
I have tried to convert an .avi movie to PAL video-CD using TMPEnc
I selected the .avi movie as both the video and audio source
The end movie has excellent picture quality but no sound at all
This is because the Audio in your AVI file is of a Format that is not supported Bt Tmpgenc..You will have to extract the audio from the AVI file to WAV format useing something like "Virtual Dub" then use the Wav file as the audio source in Tmpgenc....Cheers
I've been using TMPGEnc for the last 3 years and I was wanting to know how to get rid of the pixel squares or blocks that appear in the pictures in some areas....especially in light areas (white, lt. blue or even black). When I'm watching a movie than when those solid colors come up I see the little "squares" floating around in the area of the picture. How can I get rid of those while encoding? I know there's got to be a way to do that cuz I know this is one of the best programs to use for everything (slow), but the best! Please somebody help me out!
Those Blocks are "Macro Blocks" and are Caused By useing too Low of a Bitrate, But can also show up when you source file isn"t of the Highest Quality...If you select "Soften Block Noise" it can help a Bit but also can blur the Image as a Side effect....Cheers
Concerning these pixel squares I also have a question: I'm trying to encode an AVI divx file into a svcd. When I play the original file on my pc with, say divx player or even the windows player (with divx decoder), it looks fine. However, when I converted it using TMPGenc, block noise appeared.
Browsing through the frames (under TMPGenc) I found that indeed, some of the frames from the original divx file are "blocky".
Are those blocks really presend in the *original* file?
If so why do they not show up when I play the original file with divx player?
Or are they generated when TMPGenc converts the file?
If so, how can I get rid of them?
I tried the block noise reduction under TMPGenc but it seems to have absolutely *no effect* on the pixelated frames.
DivX-Files ARE that blocky... Since a couple of Versions, DivX and XviD do perform a Noise-Fuction while playing a Videos. This extra noise hides the blockyness of the Video.
It is possible to let this Noise appear while encoding (use ffdshow as Decoder), but this needs a lot of Bitrate and will eventually produce new Blocks in the resulting Video.
If you don't belive me, use ffdshow for Decoding and Mplayer Classic as Player. Turn the Noise-Function of and watch the Movie...
This boxiness only happens on a few frames, but it is noticable. It does NOT appear when I play the original divx file on either divx or mplayer (with ffdshow) decoder. It appears when I *open* the file in MPEGenc to encode it into a SVCD and in the subsequent svcd file.
I have three such files. The first one converted from divx to svcd without a hitch. The other two exhibit this symptom. SO where is this problem comming from? The original? The conversion?
It's very annoying to have those corrupted frames and not be able to burn addotional svcds from the other two files.
I used the SVCD template to encode a perfect playing AVI Type 1 DV file into SVCD mpeg2, but something strange happens to the resulting file. The playback has intermitten segments where the video slows down (as in slo motion) for a second or so. The audio is not affected. I dont know why this happens.
I tried changing the field order, but it didnt help (switching the field got even worse results with the field order distortion so I figure I got the field order right the first time)
What settings did you use? Some Players do have Problems with Videos if the Bitrate vary's too much or the Min._bitrate is too low.
Such effects can also happen if you burn a SVCD too fast. If the Drive do have too much Read-Problems, the Player might loose the Sync with the Buffer.
If this Happens on your DVD Player it can also be caused By bitrate spikes of Which Tmpgenc is Notorius for..What Happens is the Bitrate Spikes and the DVD Player has to suddenly spin the Disk extra Fast to read the increased data rate but if it spikes too fast and too high the DVD Player can not read the Disk Fast enough and the Video seems to slow down or Play Choppy...I haven"t found a Reliable solution for this becides Possible Lowering the bitrate or useing an encoder that has better Bitrate controll......
I used the standard bitrate default of the SVCD template 2520. I only toyed with the CQ and CBR setting as well as the Field options, which has gotten me utterly confused.
Yesterday I reran some test files, and found that my field order was a bit confused. I converted files using Non Interlace, Field A and Field B options. Although my original avi shows as Field A (Top) in Ulead Video Studio as I was preparing them (i get the horrible jerkiness caused by wrong field order if I encode in Ulead using Field B), I found that using Field B (Bottom) in Tmpgenc and using CBR eliminated the problem (there was still very slight jerkiness here and there but on the whole okay). I am confused. I swear Field B gave me horrendous results the last time around.
The Field A and Non Interlace files showed the slow down effect.
I am trying the same process this time with Constant Quality and VBR to compare. I just dun understand what is going on.
Thks. I found this out eventually. But that wasnt the source of problem. I tried using CQ and VBR and both produced the slo mo problem even with the right field order. In the end only CBR worked ok. I havent tried this out on DVD Mpeg yet but I guess there is little I can do with SVCD here.