Does anyone know if this program or of any program that can decode the ac3 audio out of the xvid file, Ive tried virtual dub but it can recognize it says its a (vfw). Anyway im trying to convert the xvid file to svcd and where tmpg can handle the video part of it im still stumped on the audio side, please help. thanks zenxeon....

What is Xvid???If you can get Virtual Dub to accept the file(seeing as i dont know what Xvid is)and save it to Wav, this should extract the AC3 but put a WAV header on the file then rename the Wav to AC3 and use "Headac3e" to encode it to Wav...I haven"t tried this but Have been told that it works.......

Maybe I should have been more clear, first off Xvid = Mpeg-4. Anyway i can not get virtual dub to accept this file to rename to ac3, this is my problem though I have done this in the past on standard avi files with ac3 it will not work on this format. If anyone can think or knows of any application out there that will help me split this file please respond.. thanks zenxeon.

There is a "Virtual Dub-AC3" Version that specificly supports AC3 audio, maybe you might have better luck with it, you might be able to get it at http://apachez.net/ in the tools section...

Working with ac3 is not the issue, its getting virtual dub or any other program to recognize the xvid format to get it to a point to seperate the two. When it comes right down to it i just cant find any programs to seperate the video and audio cuz none of them recognize the xvid format. If you can help please message me...... zenxeon

This maybe an old thread but I thought I'd add to it, following experiences with the XVID Codec, TMPGEnc and VirualDub. Well my conversion problems were related to a file encoded with XVID, not by me, but by someone else. My first hurdle was downloading the codec so that the file would at least playback. This I did from here www.divx-digest.com/software/xvid.html. I found on conversion attempts (with various copies of old and new TMPGEncs) I either got a memory/GPF type message, a clash with NTDLL.DLL, or with old versions (1.76) "Runtime error 216 00002DFC" followed by the NTDLL.DLL message.

So my train of thought passed to re-encoding the XVID AVI to a DiVX 5.02 stream with Virtual Dub, and then converting it. The above articles seems to suggest that VirtualDub doesn't like reading XVID created AVIs, however I found with version 1.4.10 it's fine. At time of writing I'm converting the file with about an hour to go. The stream being a 3000Kbps one, making a 2GB ish file.

One thing to note though, I believe there is a seperate download (about 50KB) that delivers AC3 for AVI files. I did find it and installed it. However I have since deleted it as it appeared to not be doing anything.

Please note at time of writing there is no more XVID codec development taking place, because of a dispute between it's creators and Sigma Designs. Sigma Designs stand charged with stealing code of something like that I think.

The XVID codec seems to make reasonable backups, however I'm not convinced that in it's present state it's superior to the DiVX 5.02 codec, and this may be reflected by the fact that in just over a year I've only come across one movie file that has been encoded with it.

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Thanks for your reply and all good information but still I can not get Virtaldub to recognize the XVID codec.. Everytime I try to open the file it errors out and states that the codec is unknown and needs a VFW (video for Windows) codec and Directshow codecs, such as those used by Windows Media Player are not suitable. I am using the version of Virtualdub that you listed, if you have any other suggestions please let me know.. thanks zenxeon..

Have you installed the latest XVid codec as you should have no problem opening these files with Virtualdub or TMPG or any other program for that matter.
The problem is most likely the AC3 audio as most programs don't support this.

You can use AVImux to Mux or Demux AVI files with Ac3 including Xvid files.
It can be downloaded from http://www.divx-digest.com/software/avimux.html

ASHY

P.S. if you right click the stream you require it will also give you recompression options which will allow you to directly decompress to a wav for use with TMPG.

ASHY

man this is an old question, but i'll answer in case someone else looks here. You need to have VirtualDubMod and AC3Filter installed. Then open the xvid/avi in virtualdubmod, in the "Streams" menu choose "Stream List". When the window pops up hit the demux button and save your ac3 audio file to your hard drive. There all done!

Hi all,

how can I get a MPG2 out of a VOB file very easily? (Newbie)

I want to create a mpgs and then get them back to VOB, as there is a problem with something (when playing on normal DVD Player) and I do not know how to manipulate the IFO file - so I take MPGs and create something with MovieMaker or so.

Please help!!!
Thx Kai

You can use "DVD2AVI" to frame serve the Vob files to Tmpgenc then encode it to Mpeg2......

Minion,
Both you and TMPGenc's representative say that I can run both versions on my computer and chose between them if I want.

Please tell me how to do that.

When I click on the TMPGenc shortcut execute icon, how do I know (or get to chose) which version I'm using?

Are you there, Minion?

Found ANSWER to my own question.

It appears that the execute icon that comes in the "package" with each version will only execute that specific version. So if I want to be able to use version 2.56, I need to save it and label it "2.56", (and "2.58" or whatever other vesion)for each corresponding version that I want to run.

Hi
My computer hangs everytime i encode any video in tmpgenc. what could be the problem. I've double checked and my com meets all the requiremts of the program. Could it be due to the little amount of ram i have, 128 mb ddr

I'm on a athlon xp processor, could it be the problem

No, 128Meg of RAM is enough. That's not the problem.

Are you working with DVD Mpeg-2 in version 2.57?

Have you purchased one of the Extra-Cost 3rd party DVD decoder/players that they are making us get now?

(I still can't believe they are charging so much and their program is not all-inclusive of everythinh you need without having now to pay extra money to get other software to make TMPGenc work as we paid for it!!!!)

There is a Free Mpeg2 decoder for Tmpgenc, it is the same one that was used for all the other versions and it works for this version also..

Could be a dodgy original file...

Have you tried encoding using the "Normal" setting under "Settings" and "Video" tab (the first tab) I think. I found some AVIs wouldn't convert unless I ran on Normal. Also set your process priority to normal. It might failed if you're running other stuff.

When encoding NTSC.aviDV to DVD .mpeg2 or .m2v the size changes to equivalent of PAL.. (it grows in height) This happens using the Wizard or setting at video only. Using VBR or CBR. Have tried different bitrates from 4900 t0 6500 average.. Have not tried .mpeg1 yet..

As it turns out I do not think the problem is with TMPGEnc .. I made two other files encoded with Ligos and DVDitPE and they do the same thing.. This show up when burning to DVD and playing on aTV also.. My system must have a bug.. Has anyone else experienced this?

yes.
I've used honestech also and the size problem is still there. its too tall and thin. I've tried all bitrates and other options but I can't find a way. I'm trying to make a svcd.

Well the Bitrate or encodeing method will not affect the Aspect Ratio, I think you just need to set the "Video Arrange Method" to "FullScreen"Keep Aspect Ratio" This should display the movie in the frame as close to the same way as the source file is Displayed..You can also change the way the movie is displayed with the "Clip Frame" settings.....

I think it has to do with nero. I've been having this problem with TmpgEnc 2.57, but I originally assumed it had to do with the aspect ratio. When I finishing encoding a film and watch it off my hard drive in WinDVD 4, the aspect ratio is perfect. When I burn the film with Nero 5.5.9.0 and play the resulting disc, the aspect ratio is stretch vertically. I'm using the "full screen keep aspect ratio" setting too. I've also notice when I encode some movies in mpeg1 and my original source was a 16:9, I would get a 16:9 while watching the movie on my hard drive, but again when I burn to disc with nero, the resulting aspect ratio on the disc is displayed as a 4:3 (regardless if I preset WinDVD to display in 16:9 or keep aspect ratio)!? The last movie I had that did this was The Contender. Off hand I've had this problem happen about 3 or 4 times for mpeg1. Just started to mess around with mpeg2, but my time is limited on the use of mpeg2 to determine if this aspect ratio problem is going to persist. I just finished High Crimes in mpeg2 and same problem occured on disc playback

Question for everyone. I have edited and prepared two .avi files using Premiere and a DV500. I know that an AVI file is a upper frame first, while the MPEG-2 format is a lower field first. It is my understanding that to properly encode the video for output on a TV with a DVD player, I need to set the MPEG-2 to a upper field first otherwise I will get jerky video. Question is where to do that. On one of the first pages of the wizard, you are prompted for the source's interlace - but I did not see where you select the output interlace method. Am I missing something or is there a place to set that?

Thanks in advance for the help.

Matt

The field order for mpeg is not Pre determined, if you use the Plus" version the wiZard will scan the file for the Correct Field Order..you set the "Field Order" in the "Advanced" Settings, not in the Wizard...

Here is my concern. The first time that I used my DV500 to export a file that I burned onto a CD rom, it flickered because the AVI file format and the MPEG file format are reversed as to whether it is the upper field first or the lower field first. I learned that if I forced the DV500 program to output to MPEG with the upper field first, this fixed my interlace problem and the DVD played properly on TV. Are you telling me that TMPENC fixes this problem automatically?

Matt

Yes, it does if you are useing the "Plus version" and you load the file in useing the "Wizard" it will take about 10 seconds to scan the file for the correct field order, a window will pop up saying "scanning for field order" then is will adjust it to the field order that it detects.....

Okay - is there not a way to do that in the non-plus version? I have not had a chance to upgrade yet and I am only going to be using this software to do a one-time project.

Matt

Minion, did I lose you? Tell me do you know how long until ver 3 comes out?

i download an avi, it looks like crap: blurry movement, non sharp detail,and overall really choppy. I read about using the "load" settings under "unlock" but i don't know the ballpark figure for bitrate and what to do to clean this crappy avi intlo a crisp vcd or svcd picture?

Encodeing the file to Mpeg is not going to Fix it, encodeing to mpeg will only make it worse not better, ever heard of "Garbage in garbage out" well that is what mpeg encodeing is like...

Ive started to get these errors (after i reformatted my comp, didnt happen before) where when i am encoding i get an error box saying tmpeg crash on kernel or something, i got a different error box yesterday and i wouldnt mind it so much except for the fact if i want to do batch encoding.. the movies i was encoding were both divx's, converting to mpeg for vcd. it hasnt happened before and ive encoded quite a few times.. i would like to know if anyone else has had a similar problem and/or a solution, as i am wanting to convert some episodes and i need to use the batch encode, and if it crashes, its useless.. thanks for your time
cheers
Rick

Hi,
I'm having this problem too, but like you it only happens some times. I havent yet managed to find a common factor in the occurrences... i was using it the day before yesterday and it worked fine and now today it doesnt, after having changed nothing, no doubt in a week or two it will be fine again.
had any luck solving your problem?

This program has been very buggy for me to say the least. I get all kinds of errors, mostly MPG Audio stream errors. I have posted about these on the BBS but to no avail. There is one file I am trying to encode. It worked one time but the aspect ratio was wrong. I can not encode it again. The original source file has not changed. The audio streaming errors occur at different places in the file, never at the same place. It is obviously not anything wrong with the file, the program has major problems. Any program given the same input data should produce the same results. This does not. There are major internal problems, probably memory leaks.

I even used Virtual dub to extract the audio to a wav file and then used that as input with the original video. Errored out after 2 hours of processing.

Does anyone know of another program that actually work?.

Yeah its really annoying

I just got 2.57 and encoding a dvd rip to svcd crashed at 99%... talk about a PITA... it took 7 fcking hours too.. 2pass, high quality motion.

Ok i don't want to start some flame wars here.

Frist off this is considered (and rightfully so) one of the best if not the best software mpeg encoders period. It rivals and beats software encoders that cost in the thousands of dollars. I am heavily into video enocoding and have been using this program for over 2 years.

I restore video from analogue sources, These are captured with an mjpeg codec or RGB huffy lossless codec. Encoding them with tmpgenc has never (ever) given me a problem.

Regarding incorrect aspect ratios, make sure before encoding you load a template (vcd,svcd, vcdfilm) The last one, vcdfilm, is to be used if the source is 24 fps (23.976 to be exact) Play your current file in windows media player, right click and choose statistics and you'll see the current frame rate.

Regarding the crashing and you saying its obviously not the source file. Sigh, your source is probably a downloaded divx. There are 2 divx codecs. The original (3.11 alpha) is riddled with bugs. It can cause errors on encoding even if it will play back all the way through. Try this, go to www.virtualdub.org and download it. This btw is another great video program if you haven't heard of it. load your video file in it. Go through the file all the way with the slider, I'm betting you'll get to a point where virtualdub will report an error and crash. This will be your corrupt frame(s). It's a nightmare trying to fix a corrupt divx, but it can be done.

No program is flawless though. Tmpgenc is a great encoder, but its filters are a little lacking. Also its demux/and remuxing can cause errors (last I tried, game up doing it in tmpgenc but will try again) Virtualdub has much better filtering/resizing methods. You can use virtualdub and frameserve the file on the fly to tmpgenc instead of having to resave the file and incur more loss. Even better is avisynth, a script base video filtering system(with the best ivtc period).

So please stop complaining and try to learn about the tools.

I agree with you wholly on this. Like you said using crap, corrupt and dodgy files from the internet only creates problems for the encoder which is not the encoders fault because these corrupt files are presenting corrupt data to the encoder which it doesn't expect and won't be able to continue encoding until that particular frame is corrected.

Due to the instability of downloaded files I only convert DVD rips or AVI's I have created my self and NEVER have a problem with these.
I promise you if the source is good the output will be and will encoded without a problem.

So please stop blaming the tool for doing a bad job when it is the creater of the original file that is faulty.

I d/l a movie in the avi and started to encode to mpeg to make a vcd. I'm using tmpgnc version 2.57. Okay so I loaded it all up and it stated working but i was noticeing it keep having a purple tint so i looked up at the forums and foun out it was cuz i had that one codec thing that makes it purple so i deleted all that and uninstalled it all then tried to encode it again but know it says file can't open or unsupported. But the file just worked b4 so why won't it work now?

That codec you deleted was a Mpeg-4 codec called "Angel Potion" and maybe this was the only mpeg-4 Codec you had and the AVI file you have is probably mpeg-4, so you probably need to download a Mpeg 4 codec,You can probably use Microsoft Mpeg-4 codecs, or an old Divx codec..But if this doesn"t solve your problem then you probably just need to raise the Priority of the "Direct Show file reader" ,you do this by going to "Options" to "enviromental Settings" to "Vfapi Plugins" and raise the "Direct Show" to "2" this should get it loaded, you should try this first then if that don"t work then you need the Mpeg-4 codec...

>I d/l a movie in the avi and started to encode to mpeg to make a vcd. I'm using tmpgnc version 2.57. Okay so I loaded it all up and it stated working but i was noticeing it keep having a purple tint so i looked up at the forums and foun out it was cuz i had that one codec thing that makes it purple so i deleted all that and uninstalled it all then tried to encode it again but know it says file can't open or unsupported. But the file just worked b4 so why won't it work now?



---Can you suggest any good mpeg4 codec that wont turn tmpenc purle?

I did, Microsoft Mpeg-4, or the old Divx 3x or divx4x.only the Angel potion will cause discoloration......

I did like you said and I do have a viewable picture that my DVD player reads. But......it is very glitchy. Clear, but glitchy

I am trying to divide and encode a file that says under audio stream "unknown ( (tag 2000)
I have to divide the file without extracting the audio, otherwise I get a ACM error. I was able to convert it with TMPGEnc, and burn it with VCDeasy. However, when I put it in my DVD player, it says NO DISC. All of my other regular file can be read by my DVD player. Any suggestions on what to do?

After you converted it, was there audio and video in the mpeg file before you burned it to Cd-R???

yep. I am watching the file on media player right now. When the movie file started, the slider moved quickly to the end and I thought the movie would end, but even though the slider is at the end, the movie continued to play. I don't know if this means anything or not, but thought I would tell you.

Sounds like there is a header problem in the file, it could have happened in Tmpgenc or in VCDEasy cuz VCDEasy rewrites the header if you put in Chapters..You can try running the Mpeg file through the Merge & cut" to put a New header on the file and see if the file plays normally after that and if not you might need to re-encode the avi file....

yes there is sound and video on the converted mpeg file.

I did the merge and cut per your instructions and reburned. My DVD player does read and play the movie, but it is very glittchy, very clear, but glittchy. I didn't get far enough into the file to see if the audio is in sync. Do you have any suggestion about the next step??

Well there isn"t much you can do....You either cun re-encode the avi file and see if it turns out better next time or you can move on to something else...

I downloaded some AVI files. TMPGEnc opens some for conversion and others it tells me they are not supported. They are all avi files and are rips of movies. What is the difference and how can I convert them to a usable format.

Thanks

You Just Need To raise TRhe Priority of The "Direct Show File Reader" in the "Vfapi Plugins" you do this by going to "Options" to "Enviromental Settings" to "Vfapi Plugins" and raise the "Direct Show" to "2".....

>You Just Need To raise TRhe Priority of The "Direct Show File Reader" in the "Vfapi Plugins" you do this by going to "Options" to "Enviromental Settings" to "Vfapi Plugins" and raise the "Direct Show" to "2".....


I have done this and it works most of the time but not always.
For example I have a 519Mb avi file which has the following properties
audio - MPEG Layer-3,127 kBit/s, 44,100 Hz, Stereo (no problems)
video - 352 x 288, 181656 Frames, 25.000 Frames/Sec, 73 KB/Sec, Unknown Format "... can not open, or unsupported."

Any suggestions

regards
Muah_dib