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Is there a feature to stop/save and continue in the program? I doupt it but since it takes AGES (50-60 hours) to make mpeg-files on my mashine (AMD K6-III 400Mhz, 128 MB RAM, I know it's old) it would be quite neat if one could save the mpeg-file and continue at a later point, so I don't have to let my pc running ALL THE TIME. I think it's quite annoying if the computer is running when you want to sleep ;-).
I don't mind the focus on quality but even if it would "only" take 5 hours it would be good to have such a feature.
No there is no feature like that,if you got more ram the encodeing would be quicker,but i"m puprised that it takes that long,on my 800mhz system it takes about 4 hours to do 1 hour of mpeg1 and 6 to do mpeg 2,if you are in the states you can buy a brand new celeron 1.0ghz system for $400 so bite the bullet and upgrade.....
You've either got a problem with your machine there or you have some crazy settings for your file.
It shouldn't take anywhere near that long on your PC even if it is a AMD k6-III 400.
I would say about 15 hours on your system.
Check you are not doing a 2 pass encode and make sure the motion search precision is either set to normal or motion estimate search(fast).
If you are using the Highest quality setting, forget it.
This doesn't yeild hardly a noticible difference if any compared to high quality and even then high quality isn't that noticible from normal and for the time it would take to encode a movie using the highest quality setting it's pointless.
Also check that the optimiztions are ticked if it allows you under the CPU tab in the enviromental settings.
Another thing which would speed things up slightly, is untick the floating point DCT setting under the quantize matrix tab.
Anyway to answer your original question it is possible to resume encoding in a roundabout way.
If you are using an operating system which allows you to hibernate the PC, when you wish to stop encoding just click the stop button and TMPG will ask you if you wish to abort just leave it like that and hibernate your PC.
When your PC restarts you will be able to cancel the abort and carry on encoding.
Oh and just to agree with Minion. To be honest encoding is a job for a more powerful machine.
I used to have a p3 450 with 128mb ram and that used to take around 10 hours to encode a 2hr movie.
Now with my P4 1.7ghz overclocked at 1.9ghz with 256mb 2600 DDR ram it only takes about 1hr 20 mins to encode a 2hr movie.
Think about it.
Hey "Ashy" I wanted to ask you how do you overclock your cpu? is it a setting in the computer or do you need some sort of software? I have the speed of my cpu to the highest setting but it doesn"t say anything about overclocking..your input would be appriciated....thanx
What is your processor?
You will find the option in the BIOS settings somewhere in the options there will be something refering to the FSB (Front Side Bus) frequency or Host/PCI clock. It will be set at default.
This refers to the frequency which your PCI bus is running at.
So if you have a motherboard whhich runs at a FSB of 100mhz and a processor that runs at 450mhz using a multiplier of 4.5x then raising the FSB to 112mhz will raise the CPU speed to 504mhz .
Bear in mind that raising the FSB also speeds up the frequency of other components such as your graphics card and memory, so make sure you don't overclock too much. Memory and graphics cards usually handle this overclocking quite well though.
to try and answer haymaker's question....
there is no option for this, but if you click on "File"...."MPEG Tools", this will stop the progress and you can carry on doing other things with your PC, close the "tools" window to resume. hope this is helpfull to you!
That's more or less what I had said, but I suppose if you just wanted to pause for a while that would be a better option than just leaving the abort button as it is as you could accidentally hit the enter button and stop the encode all together.
The "p3p package" optimizes the program to work with pentium 3,to get rid of this error go in to your "tmpgenc" and look for the file called "p3p package" and copy and paste it in your "system" and "system32" folder. this should get it to work but if it doesn"t post back and I will tell you a way that will work but it would make encodeing take longer.....
Can you please email me and help me with this same issue. I cannot find the p3p package in the "tmpgenc". i am not a pro with this thing and am getting very frustrated. PLEASE HELLLLLLLLP.
I have been using TMPGEnc ver 253.35.130 and until a few days ago all was ok.
Now every time I encode avi and burn final product to disc half of the screen
has a green bar displayed vertical down the right side. The movie plays and
looks fine on PC, but when played in dvd TV screen displays this green bar.
I am new at this and not to sure what to look for to see if I have accidently changed a setting or something that will cause this.
Has anyone else ever come accross this problem before ?
Thank you in advance for your help.
This sounds as if you could have incorrect resolution settings.
Resolution settings need to be in multiples of 16 to display correctly.
Use one of the templates to encode you movie and make sure you set the source aspect ratio correctly.
If the movie is widescreen choose 16:9 and check that the Video arrange method is 'Full screen (keep aspect ratio)'
If you still get errors post the parameters you have set for the file, just copy the info from the line at the bottom in TMPG.
I have a movie made by Pinnacle Studio 7 and converted it into a MPEG2 file. I have taken this Mpeg2 file and loaded into TMPG. The file contains both audio and video. (MP2 audio) I get no sound when previewing this file in TMPG main window. I took the file and Demultiplexed it. I took the audio MP2 file and converted into a Wav file using Winamp. I loaded this audio file into the main window of TMPG along with the video stream file of my demultiplexed file and I still get no sound when previewing. I get video just find but no sound. I can play both the original MPEG2 file converted by Pinnacle and the Audio wave file converted by Winamp seperately on other software and I do get sound. What in the world am I missing?
Firstly make sure you have encoded it to 41000hz,then try to use a external encoder like "toolame" or "scmpx" the encoder built in to "tmpgenc" isn"t very good,and another thing don"t play your mpeg2 files in "media player" cuz on some sysyems it will play mpeg2"s with no sound or out of sync,what i have doen with audio problems is use "db power amp" to convert the audio to mp2 then multiplex the video and audio together....
When cutting a large file into burnable segments the first cut is in synch. Thereafter each cut is out of synch. Can anyone tell me why and how I can cut large files using mpeg tools and retain synch. The mpeg2 file was created using Instant dvd hardware digitizer and encoder. The only way I could retain synch on each segment was to interrupt the creation and creat a new file for each segment.
Also I would appreciate being directed to a video editing tool that is user friendly and has good instruction that don't assume you know the system. I have Ulead video Version 5 and it's could lose a genius.
This is one of the things you have to deal with when you don"t segment your movie as you encode,I think all you can do is try untill it is in sync,or use different editing software,but if you can"t get it cut right no matter what you do you might have to encode it in segments..I don"t use the cut feature unless i absolutely have to because of these bugs it..In the future use the "source range" feature to encode your files in segments ,it saves time and a lot of frustration
My advice if you have problems using the cutting tool in TMPG is to use BBMPEG.
This program will allow you to cut the movie into segments as you multiplex it.
If you look at no.5 in the instructions you will see a row of boxes at the bottom titled 'Start up delay ms'. This is where you can adjust the A/V sync.
i have a question. under the motion search percision in the mpeg settings window, they have number options. such as high quality and low quality. my question is what is motion estimate search? the wizard automaticaly used that when i was testing it out but i've done high quality usually. which would be better for movies?
The higher the quality setting the further ahead in the file the encoder will search before allocating the bitrate. This lets the encoder decide better where to use the bitrate in the next frame.
If you choose Motion estimate search the encoder will predict what the next scene will be like in the next frame by using the information from previous frames and will allocate the bitate accordingly.
This is used to speed things up, but depending on the type of movie could either give you a worse or better result regarding the speed.
It all depends on how the scenes change from one frame to the next.
In my experience Normal has always been better than Motion estimate.
Higher is slightly better than Normal, but hardly worth it considering the extra time involved.
Highest doesn't give any marked increase ,if any, in quality and regarding the time it would take to encode a movie there really isn't any point.
I have an SVCD that I am trying to convert to VCD. I have read about changing the headers to trick my dvd player into thinking it's a vcd on this forum and at http://www.geocities.com/newestmoviesencode/dvdvcd However, when I multiplex at the standard MPEG-1 video cd setting, I get an error at 100% that ~300000 s packets cause a buffer underflow. I burn the cd anyways with nero as a video cd and the movie comes out, but with green blocks at the top and bottom corners of my screen. The link above explains that the gren blocks should only occur on the pc. I beg to differ. Is this a dvd player issue? Also, please note that I also tried multiplexing with the non-standard video cd setting, and I did NOT get the buffer underflow error, and tmpgenc also rewrote the headers (which it did not do under the standard MPEG video cd setting because of the buffer underflow error), but the movie now plays extremely slow and the green blocks are still at the top and bottom of the screen. Is anyone else having this problem with the 3 svcd release that I am sure most of you know what I am talking about. Please note this is the first disc. Other have complained about disc 2 and 3 on this forum, but that is a separate issue. When I multiplex, it goes to 100%
The method you are to trick your DVD is fine. The reason why your having problems this time is the fact the 3 SVCD title your are referring to is in PAL. You need to Pal to NTSC before multiplexing to a VCD header. The only problem is getting TMPGEnc to be able to load up the SVCD Mpeg without giving me "unsupported file" Any help would be great.
So are we saying here that these disks are encoded in SVCD PAL format and some people are trying to burn this to disk as NTSC.
Some NTSC players may handle this, but I guess some can't.The only solution is to convert the file to NTSC format with TMPG.
Two ways are possible.
The easiest is to demultiplex the audio from the file and use DVD2AVI to create a project file and load that into TMPG and encode and then multiplex the result with the audio.
OR install an MPEG2 codec such as Stinky's codec which will allow you to open the file directly with TMPG.
Be aware though that changing the framerate may cause jerky playback in your player.
There is a way to correct this though.
Is there any disadvantage to encoding a whole VCD/SVCD movie into one file first and then using the MPEG Tools>Cut option to break it into CD-sized files as opposed to encoding appropriately-sized files to begin with. For me, it's easier to just do the whole movie and then break it up. Any drawbacks?
Well the obvious answer is you can never be sure of the exact size of the two parts when using the source range filter to split the movie.
I don't create standard VCDs or SVCds and use VBR in all my encodes, so I can never be sure what the length of the movie will be.
Also I always encode Video and Audio separately this also speeds up my encodes.
The software I use to encode my audio usually takes around 3 or 4 mins whereas TMPG will take 20-25 mins.
The reason being is that if my resulting movie is larger than expected then I can always reduce the bitrate of the audio to accomadate for this and then multiplex.
Also if your resulting movie is not in sync. It is easier to correct the whole thing rather than 2 parts.
I am trying to make a VCD using Pinnacle Impression SE, I create an mpeg 1 file using Tmpg but when I output the VCD from Pinnacle the sound is very high pitched and scratchy. It doesnt' give me the option to keep the audio file at 48khz when I export from tmpenc as and mpeg 1
you should be able to output the audio from "tmpgenc" at 48000hz,after you load in your template, load in the "unlock.mfc" template and you should be able to change the audio frequency........
Ashy you da man but I have lost count of the times I have tried to do it that way and have never managed to get it to work. the way I explained works 9 times out of 10 but that one time when they decide to Ps about with the audio gap I fall down. I have read though your very detailed instructions time and time again but never got it to work.
I am quite happy with the way I do it and get good results, going to try to chop the front off the audio of my next project to try to get it to align. Wish me luck
Hello, I would like to obtain best quality from DV to SVCD.
Can you tell me what would be the best set-up. I do not care if file is bigger or process time. It is for family movies that are most of the time 10-20 min long.
I have downloaded a film and it is in SVCD format but I need it in VCD format to play it on my DVD player. I have tried the normal trick with multiplexing but i get an error saying "Warning ..246845s packets cause buffer underflow. The Mpeg file might cause an error when it played . When i check the size of the file it is only about 1/2 the original size. It seems to chop the file. I have also tried to use the cut and merge to change the header but that did not work either. I also tried to burn it in Nero as a VCD without reencoding it but that did'nt work either, I also tried to burn it after Nero had reecoded it and that did'nt work either.....
Can anyone help ?????
The movie is a new one (spid....) and is 3 cds long. The first CD works, but CD2 and CD3 dont .....
Please Help !!!!
How do you mean the first one works? Do you mean as it is or after doing the trick and burning?
The reason you are getting the buffer underflow warning is because you are mutiplexing as a 'MPEG1 video vcd' and not 'MPEG1 video cd(non standard)'
Rather than try this supposedly VCD trick, try this which is probably the reason why the vcd trick works on some players in the first place.
For some reason some incompatible players assume the MPEG movie is stored in the MPEGAV folder on a burned disk rather than the MPEG2 folder which is standard SVCD and won't be able to find the movie giving a warning such as 'Check disk'.
The MPEGAV folder is used for VCD not SVCD.
When you multiplex an MPEG2 file as an MPEG1 VCD and burn it as a VCD, the file will be put in the MPEGAV folder instead of the standard MPEG2 folder, this allows players which automatically look in the MPEGAV folder to find and play the file which is probably why the trick works in the first place.
Most SVCD burning programs allow the folder name to be changed to make it compatible with your player and is the proper way to do it as doing it the VCD trick way will make the movie incompatible with normal players and wont play, but this way should make it compatible with both types of players.
You will find this option under the 'Video cd' tab in nero in the 'New compilation window'. Just click the button called 'Compatibility' and change the folder name from 'MPEG2' to 'MPEGAV'.
Same goes for VCDeasy. You'll find it under Settings>S(VCD) player where it says SVCD you will see a tick box.
Search for the word spider on this forum. There's a person who goes by the name Shovelhed that posted about the same problem with discs 2 and 3. He said he used dvd2avi and then reencoded the avi video and mpeg into svcd. Then he changed the headers to vcd and he said it worked. Haven' tried it yet. Though I actually found that when I multiplex the first disc, I get the buffer error at 100%, tmpgenc does not rewrite the headers, and I get static and green blocks at the top and bottom of the screen. Do you have the same problem? If I use the non-standard video cd format to multiplex, I do not get the buffer error, tmpgenc reqrites the header, but the movie plays really slow and the green blocks are still there. Do you think that simply changing the folder rather than multiplexing will fix this green block problem? The folloing page says that green blocks will appear on the pc but not on the dvd player.
Read again what the post says.
I was trying to give reason as to why this trick may work.
When you burn a SVCD with your burning program you end up with a set of folders on your disk.
One of these folders is called 'MPEG2'.
This folder contains the movie.
If your player doesn't natively play SVCD then it will automatically look for your movie in a folder called 'MPEGAV'.
This is the folder which contains the movie on a VCD not a SVCD.
Therefore if you burn an SVCD your player cannot locate the file in the folder MPEGAV because it it in the MPEG2 folder and simply won't play.
This so called trick simply puts the movie in the 'MPEGAV' folder rather than the normal 'MPEG2' folder on the disk thus allowing your player to locate the disk.
The only problem is when you use the SVCD to VCD trick, you will confuse your player.
There are certain fundamental differences between MPEG2 and MPEG1.
Your player is reading the header of the file and is attempting to set it self to decode an MPEG1 file, but the file is MPEG2.
This leads to display problems because the decoding parameters aren't correctly set by the player to read the file.
The trick may work on some players, but I would guess that these players would also simply work by changing the folder name to MPEGAV instead of MPEG2.
Try it. See what happens.
My only advice is to run those 3 files you have downloaded through TMPG's simple multiplexer as an 'MPEG-2 SVCD' to make sure the headers are correctly re-written so your burning software doesn't reject them.
If what "ashy" said doesn"t work try makeing a project file out of the mpeg2 with dvd2avi and then encode to vcd......or you can (i haven"t tried this) load your mpeg2 into the "vfapi converter" and make a psudo avi and encode that to vcd.........