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Hi All,
I've been trying to work out how to use this program. My first conversion went perfectly. The only option I changed was the 'Video Arrange Method' on the 'Advanced' page to 'Full Screen (Keep Aspect Ratio). Ran it, checked the mpeg produced (on my machine) and all was well. Unfortunately, the next 2 will not work. I get audio, but no video...just a black screen. Here is the info on all three files w/ the good file coming first. Can anyone tell me what I should be setting to get the correct conversions?
Properties...Summary settings : Again only file #2 will convert w/ video!
Audio Same for each file Audio Format:MP3,Avg. Data Rate:7.00 Kb/Sec, Sample Rate:24.00 kHz, Channels:2(Stereo)
Video Frame Width 352 for all, Frame Height #1(240) & #2&3(288), Frame Rate #1(14.985fps), #2&3(12.5fps), Video Sample Size all 24bit and Video Compression(MS-MPEG4 V3), other settings all vary, but should like Frame Count, Data Rate, etc.
TMPGEnc loads the files as #1(4:3 525 line NTSC, 704x480), #2(4:3 625 line PAL, 704x576) & #3(4:3 625 line PAL, 704x576)
Output format is Video-CD NTSC (MPEG-1 352x240 29.97fps CBR 1150kbps, Layer-2 44100Hz 224kbps)
Any suggestions what I might be doing wrong here? I'd appreciate the help as well as a fairly good answer so I can learn about this stuff.
First you have to make sure you have the apropriate codecs installed on your machine to decode your avi files, and raising your "direct show" plugin"s priority to "2" might work to, to do this go to "options" to "enviromental settings" to "vfapi plugins" then right click on the "direct show" plugin and raise the priority to "2"usually if you can see you movie in the encodeing screen the it should be there after encodeing....but I did notice that the settings you are useing for you avi files will give you choppy playback and possible de-sync of audio and video in your dvd player,I will explain,for file #1, the 352 by 240, 14.985fps, that is a "ntsc" file that has to be encoded to "29.97fps" and 352 by 240, your settings are correct for that one but the other ones #2 & #3 the 352 by 288 and 12.5fps, those are "pal" files and have to be encoded to pal resolutions and frame rates, so they need to be encoded to 352 by 288 and 25fps, for those files use the "pal" vcd template, or you will get choppy playback in your dvd player and possible de-sync, you can make those pal files into ntsc files but it is a little complicated and probably shouldn"t try unless you have some experience and even more patience....there is a lot of info on this subject and more at "www.vcdhelp.com"....good luck.......
I acidentaly made this a Request instead of a question the first time I posted. Sorry...
I'm very new to video edditing so please bare with me: I curnatly use Studio V 7 to edit my digital camcorder tapes, what is the best way to get these edits onto a VCD or SVCD? I tried to use TMPGEnc but I guess I did things wrong because they wont play in DVD players (any). Do I need special software for my CD recorder? Also what file extensions do VCDs and SVCD have? .MPEG? Sorry if my question seem stupid but I need your help. Please list step by step instructions if you guys can.
Thanks again for any help!
Your problem I think is that you need to burn your "mpeg" file to cd-r in vcd/svcd mode with a program that is for burning vcd/svcd"s, you just cant burn it to a cd-r and put it in your dvd player and expect it to play cuz it won"t, you need a program like "Nero Burning Rom". You can download a 30 day fully functioning trial from "www.nero.com" and you have to burn your mpeg1 files as vcd and mpeg2 files as svcd,"Nero" is a very user friendly program so you should not have a problem once you download it, and yes vcd/svcd files encoded with "tmpgenc" have a "mpeg" extention.Plus you have to make sure that your dvd player supports vcd"s or svcd"s cuz not all player do...
I want to add pemenant subtitles to a file.After i did everything which was needed to do and I frameserved the file with subtitle,I wanted to load in to TMPenc. I was given an error which said " Unable to open please install the file MSVCR70.dll and maybe the problem will be solved."
Where can I find this file ??.
You mean that the Divx file has no audio? Or the encoded Divx to mpeg has no audio?If the divx file has no audio then it could be that you do not have the proper codecs to decode the audio from the divx file, try downloading the "Nimo" codec pack,you can get it at the tools section at "vcdhelp.com", this pack has most of the codecs you will need to decode most audio formats and video formats, but if the the audio is there in the divx file but not there in the encode mpeg file it is probably becaude the divx file has a unsupported audio format like mp3 vbr, or ac3, for most formats you can extract the audio to a wav file with "virtua dub" and then encode the wav file as your audio source but if the source audio is "ac3" you will need an "ac3 decoder" you can easily find one on a search engine by typeing in "ac3 decoder".....
Yes I did mean that the Audio is missing when I rncoded it. Will the quality change by adding this second step. Also I have been told that DivX movies are not as good as the ones downloaded from the newgroups direct as Mpeg movies is this true?
please help. i used to be able to open my d2v files in tmpg but now it says that the file is not supported. does anyone know why this has suddenly happend? i downloaded a new version but still it doesnt fix it
When I convert using tmp I get wrong language in the final mpeg. I select english. Just getting started using templates as set up. I get good picture quality, but then again I have not yet been able to complete the process of merging and writing to cd yet.
Try extracting track #2 in the audio and see if that is english but in most cases english is track #1 unless it is a forign film, or you can extract all the audio tracks and go through them till you find the english track..Just last week I ripped a dvd that said that the #1 track was english and it turned out there were no english tracks on the movie cuz it was a french film, just a wierd story.......
hey thanks for the response, the movie is black hawk down, i have the entire vob files on hd around 6.63 gig with all the commercials etc looks great with power dvd, was planning to put it on cd. ok this is stupid but i think i have downloaded just about every program possible, from the other areas on the net saying which the best way to put movie on vcd, i was going this route using tmpeng to mpeg1, then nero to burn, but it looks like i have to merge possibly, there will be 6 mpeg files, now getting back to the point do i have to use another program to find the tracks like dvd2avi because i tried it i cant tell what is the audio files any help on that just wander why it put french instead of english when i picked english in tmpeng
Well If you use dvd2avi you won"t have to merge the mpeg files, and you can use "dvd2avi" to extract all the audio tracks in your vob files, and if you used "smartripper" to rip the dvd then there will be a text file which tells you what stream is what language, if it is a north american dvd then track #1 is allmost allways the english track, I have ripped literally hundreds of dvd"s and rarely have I had a problem with finding the right audio track actually only once and that was because there wasn"t a english track, but if you didn"t use smart ripper you can do this , extract track #1 then #2 ect till you find the english audio track, I did black hawk down about 3 weeks ago just after it came out and I"m pretty sure on the copy I used the english track was #1 and french was #2 and from what I remember that was all the audio tracks there were the rest were subtitles,and encodeing "vob" files takes a lot longer (on my system) to encode than "d2v" files from dvd2avi...but if you are still haveing problems useing dvd2avi you can e-mail me and I will try to help out...
I try to encode an AVI (divx) file with NTSC format (23.97 fps and 48kHz audio)
to PAL VCD styandard (25fps; 44100Hz audio). TMpeg accept to create such a file BUT There are small cuts to the resulting file. In deed, the film seems to stop
for a while each second before continuing.
PLEASE HELP ME !!!
I tried to select NTSC source and PAL destination file without success.
Does anybody know HOW TO CONVERT NTSC 24fps to PAL 25 fps ???
I guess you have to speed up frame rate to 25 fps and audio by 4%. I also have the problem to convert an NTSC film (non-interlaced source)from DVD to PAL SVCD since my DVD player does not accept USA region code.
I will try to sort out the problem and then reply to this thread.
I have posted this question myself not so long ago. Ashy gave a very comprehensive answer,which I can guarentee is spot on. Go to posting #8363 or enter "adey" in the search engine and you will find everything you need to know.
I really do not think one has to go thru' this much trouble to get NTSC<->PAL conversion. As far as I know, TMPGEnc is buggy in doing any such framerate conversion (jerkiness, interlacing artifacts). I used Canopus DV Format Converter for this and it is very smooth.
FWIW, Canopus ProCoder is the way to go, NTSC<->PAL, stitching, etc, all in one step. The quality of the ProCoder's MPEG2 output (not even at the highest quality) is far better than the best TMPGEnc can offer. TMPGEnc tends to have motion artifacts on interlaced video contents, it is especially apparent on objects with a vertical edge.
I'm not saying TMPGEnc is bad software. It's good for its price. However, I think ProCoder may justisfy and can pay back itself quickly.
The problem with TMPGEnc is that the author himself probably does not use it for producing DVDs movies. He doesn't understand all the steps involved. Things can be done in TMPGEnc to cut down a lot of production time especially when the input AVI is 20GB in size.
IMHO, TMPGEnc should have an option to output the MPEG2 file into elementary data streams. In fact, the audio file should be 48KHz .WAV file. This saves time not needing to compress the audio portion into MP2. Authoring programs like DVDIt! can save even more time not needing to convert MP2 back into WAV before it encodes the audio portion into Dobly digital. ProCoder understands this and outputs the audio in WAV to save lots and lots of user's time. Because of this, the quality of the audio is maintained as well (no lossy compression into MP2 then back into WAV then into Dolby digital).
Besides, I don't know why he provides frame rate conversion if the converted video is clearly jerky.
Who say's that TMPG can't encode to elementry streams. Ok it can't do both the video and audio at the same time, bit it can encode to a video elementry stream. It can also encode to wav or any other format for that matter as long as the corret codec is installed. It can also encode to bitmaps,jpegs and AVI's and also encode from these formats.
How many other programs do you know which can do this for the money and as far as your comment about the author not understanding the DVD process. I think you would be wrong about that one. TMPG is *NOT* a DVD authoring program. It is simply an MPEG encoder. It is designed to create great quality MPEGs which can then be used with other programs.
As far as Iam concerned TMPG has many many options that most other programs just do not have. I know for one that I would be lost without it and as far as programs go for paying for themselves, well I can tell you TMPG has done that a 1000 times already.
I know TMPGEnc is not DVD authoring program, but what it outputs can help cut down a lot of authoring time if it provides the option to do so.
I'd like to see it outputting both elementary streams at once, not just one at a time. Also, when outputting audio stream, there is no WAV option, only MPEG Layer I and II. I don't want it wasting time compressing the audio which I clearly don't need when authoring the DVD. I can probably save an hour of processing time if TMPGEnc can produce a 48KHz WAV file (this is done on a P4 2.2GHz BTW).
Also, 2-3 hours are added for every hour of video when I need an external tool to perform high quality PAL<->NTSC conversion. For me, starting with an edited AVI from mini-DV (16 to 20GB) to the final DVD output can go down from 12 to 8 hrs if TMPGEnc fixes the 2 issues above. That's a big saving if you ask me.
NTSC Film to PAL: the Trick is NOT to do any Framerate-Conversion!
Do a correct PAL-Speedup, that's the same, DVD-Producers do.
Separate Audio and Video
Encode the Video only as PAL. Use Setting -> Advanced -> Do not frame rate conversion
Use a good(!) WAV-Editor to speedup the Audio-Part to get it to a matching length.
Encode the Audio-Part, mux Audio and Video, be happy.
I love TMPGEnc - I paid the fee, well worth it. Now I want to take the MPEG2's rendered in TMPGEnc and use them to burn a DVD with proper chapters. I have Pinnacle express but it doesn't do chapters, only index points and I've tried the Ulead products but they won't let me get to the burner part without doing their own rendering.
I have rendered each of my chapters separately in TMPGENc, now I just want to burn the DVD.
Is there any Burner product that will allow the creation of menu's from MPEG2's and let you select a frame from MPG to use as the button image (Like Pinnacle Express does)?
Uleads DVD Moviefactory works great for me... when you have the mpeg file it lets you make the menus, see how the setup will look on the screen, then it will even burn it for you if it can see your burner. Might want to give it a try.
I have recorded a VCD (352x240 PAL) compatible MPEG-1 stream from my TV-Card.
The file is over 1 hour. Now I want to cut it in little pieces. No problem I thought with MPEG-Tools from Version 2.54. After marking start and end I get a little VCD file. But the file starts with frames before the startpoint the sound is on correct place.
You should try a different mpeg editor, the "mpeg tools" are notorius for not working properly, if you are doing mpeg1/vcd there are a few freeware mpeg1 editors out there like "vcd cutter" which I believe you can find in the tools section of "vcdhelp.com".....
I hope vcd cutter is faster than Virtual Dub. Using Virtual Dub to cut out unwanted parts and Sync time adds another hour or more of processing time. :(
I have some good RM movies, but I want to transfer them into mpg.
Can Tmpg transfer Realplayer files into mpg? If it can't, does anyone have any solution? Thanks!
I think someone asked this same question a little while ago, and the answer is "no" you can not encode "RM" files to mpeg with "tmpgenc" you have to encode them to avi then you can use tmpgenc ,I think a program called "trina" will encode "RM" files to "avi".......
I will purchase this program in a second if I could stop burning DVDs with the aspect ratio all wrong. Every DVD that is supposed to be in 16:9, veiwing on my 4:3 TV, has tall skinny people. SmartRip, DVD2AVI VFP, TMPG. Then Sonic with my HP200 and everything works perfectly except that. I did read in this bbs about the unlock template, I haven't tried that. But what setting should I use. I have tried them all with the same results everytime.
Please someone help, I think I need glasses now!!!???
You have to adjust the "Video arrange method" this sets the way the frame fits in the screen, and this can sometimes happen if you for example have a source file that is say 352 by 240 and you encode it to say 720 by 480 and it gets stretched to fit the bigger frame size, but this can be overcome by adjusting the "video arange method" to the apropiate setting..
Assuming you are ripping a 16:9 DVD choose these settings:
Source aspect ratio - 16:9 Display
Video arrange method - Full screen(keep aspect ratio)
Output aspect ratio - 4:3 Display for MPEG2 or 4:3 525 line(NTSC) or 4:3 625 line (PAL) for MPEG1