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i just tried to convert a film i downloaded from avi. to mpg. using TMPG because the file size was too large too burn onto a DVD.
Everything seemed to be going fine and i followed the wizard making sure that the size of the output file would be small enough to fit on a DVD.
The conversion finished and i went to the output folder and found two files.
One was a wav file that wouldnt play and the other was mv2 file that also wouldnt play.
I was expecting a single mpeg file that was smaller and could then be burned onto a DVD. The new files together add up to over 3GB when the original avi. file was around 715MGB.
What am i doing wrong. Any help would be highly appreciated.
Thankyou in advance
Next time select MPEG1 layer 2(MP2) as the audio in the wizard, however most DVD authoring programs will accept both the files you have.
The M2v is the video and the wav is the audio. TMPGenc DVD author will happily accept both for creating a DVD.
The file size of the source has absolutely nothing to do with the output file size whatsoever.
It is it's running itime which determines the output file size.
The DVD output filesize size you have looks about right for a regular movie using standard bitrates.
So far I have been able to successfully encode one file using TMPGEnc 3XP. For some reason when I try to encode now I get read errors during the encoding process. The point where the error occurs is not always in the same place sometimes it is with the first 10 minutes of the video, sometimes it is a couple of hours in. Of course the program stops at this point and I have to start over. This is very time consuming when trying to encode 4 hours of video using XDVD. I have tried rebooting (cold and warm), running chkdsk, and changing the source files. I am beginning to wonder if I have some bad memory.
Has anyone else experienced this and/or know the cause?
I am running Windows XP Pro with an Intel P4 1.7Ghz 512MB RAM and a 250GB HD, file system is NTFS.
I've been trying tmpgenc 2.521.58.169, core version 1.98.152. Under XP SP1, no problems.
I installed SP2 on a new machine and installed tmpgenc. I found that once I increased the priority of the DirectShow Multimedia File Reader from -1 to +2, Tmpgenc would immediately crash and it would keep crashing whenever I started it. When I deleted the tmpgenc.ini and restarted tmpgenc, it would run until I changed the DirectShow priority again.
I then removed XP SP2 using Add/Remove and tmpgenc is now running normally.
I'm running the 3ivx codec and WinDVD6. But I was running both those programs under XP SP1 as well, with no effect on Tmpgenc.
BTW, when I leave the DirectShow File Reader at -2 priority, Tmpgenc reports triple the number of frames in the avi I'm converting to mpeg2 and the conversion time appears to triple as well.
An update to this problem. Tmpgenc ran fine under SP1, but when I updated the 23 recommended patches to XP, one of them caused Tmpgenc to crash with the Directshow Multimedia File Reader priority increased to +2. I rolled back to just the SP1 express patch, added in the DirectX9 update, and Tmpgenc worked. So one of the other 20+ patches must cause a problem, at least for me.
Another update. It's not XP SP2. The problem appears to be ver 6.3.1.17 or 6.3.1.20 of Nero. When I install Nero, Tmpgenc crashes right away. When I uninstall Nero, Tmpgenc works fine. In fact, when I start Tmpgenc _during_ the Nero uninstall, Tmpgenc runs OK.
I don't seem to be able to edit the header of this thread, perhaps the adminstrator could change it from XP+SP2 to Nero v 6.3.1.17.
Nero has it's own directshow codecs which are probably interfering by trying to decode whatever file you have put into TMPG causing it to crash.
A lower priority is likely using a different codec or decoding method.
To remedy this try installing FFDSHOW. This will replace all MPEG4 codecs (XVID,DIVX,3IVX,MS, e.t.c.) and will have priority over other codecs in the system and has good compatibility with TMPG. http://athos.leffe.dnsalias.com/ffdshow-20040718.exe
> Nero has it's own directshow codecs which are probably interfering by trying to decode whatever file you have put into TMPG causing it to crash.
> To remedy this try installing FFDSHOW. This will replace all MPEG4 codecs (XVID,DIVX,3IVX,MS, e.t.c.) and will have priority over other codecs in the system and has good compatibility with TMPG.
Installing ffdshow fixed the problem.
I've never used ffdshow before, I've only used the 3ivx codec. How does ffdshow compare to 3ivx for avi compatibility and playback quality?
FFDSHOW is highly compatible with all MPEG4 codecs and most applications seeing as it also comprises a VFW codec also.
It is based on the XVID codec, but has been tweaked to give better performance. In most cases FFDSHOW is more efficient at decoding MPEG4 sources than the actual codecs themselves. It is especially efficient at decoding uncompressed AVI.
I have no MPEG4 codecs installed on my sytem at all apart from FFDSHOW and have never had an issue yet unlike XVID and DIVX codecs which have caused problems in the past.
Not only that, but the filters and features it has are second to none for a codec.
It also produces excellant output when used as an encoder being based on XVID.
Stumbled across this thread trying to solve my directshow problems running TMPGENC XPress trying to open any AVI files that used Directshow and it crashing (TMPGENC didn't crash, just the VFAPI server). Installing FFShow fixed it! Thanks!
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>I've been trying tmpgenc 2.521.58.169, core version 1.98.152. Under XP SP1, no problems.
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>I installed SP2 on a new machine and installed tmpgenc. I found that once I increased the priority of the DirectShow Multimedia File Reader from -1 to +2, Tmpgenc would immediately crash and it would keep crashing whenever I started it. When I deleted the tmpgenc.ini and restarted tmpgenc, it would run until I changed the DirectShow priority again.
>
>I then removed XP SP2 using Add/Remove and tmpgenc is now running normally.
>
>I'm running the 3ivx codec and WinDVD6. But I was running both those programs under XP SP1 as well, with no effect on Tmpgenc.
>
>BTW, when I leave the DirectShow File Reader at -2 priority, Tmpgenc reports triple the number of frames in the avi I'm converting to mpeg2 and the conversion time appears to triple as well.
>
I'm getting the following problem when I try to convert an AVI file to VCD. When I'm done with the project wizard, I click "OK" and then TMPEnc closes immediately after I get the following message:
Read error occurred at address 00012F40 of Module 'TMPGenc.exe' with 20656850
I've tested my RAM with a RAM tester and it shows no problems.
>I'm getting the following problem when I try to convert an AVI file to VCD. When I'm done with the project wizard, I click "OK" and then TMPEnc closes immediately after I get the following message:
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>Read error occurred at address 00012F40 of Module 'TMPGenc.exe' with 20656850
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>I've tested my RAM with a RAM tester and it shows no problems.
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>Any ideas?
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>Thanks!
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I tried a while back joining an SVCD but i got half of the video or movie cut off so it only showed part of it when i got done. well that's just me. I'm not an expert at cutting or joining automatically. Not enough experience in that. I tried cutting with my Uncle on a long distance phone call several years back and that's the only time i cut a video using TMPGEnc. Any help would be greatly aprreciated. Thanks guys.
I have a problem with TMPGenc and dropped frames. My capture software virtualvcr sorts dropped frames by filling the space with D frames (copies of the previous good frame) this maintains audio sync. However, TMPGEnc appears to skip these in the encode causing A/V sync issues.
Dropped frames cannot be removed from the material i'm capturing from so any ideas would be very helpful.
Hello,
I am currently using this software to load .oma files (sony audio files from minidisc), and when i try to ouptut to .wav, it will make a .wav file the same length of the original sound file, but there will only be sound for the first minute, after that it is silent. Is this because it is a demo, or is there something not working correctly? Also, is this a lossless conversion? Thanks. Ryan
ASHY:
So this AVI is only 5 minutes long?
>If that is the case you can ramp up the bitrate of the SVCD if your player can handle it.
>Try upping the bitrate to 4000 and then check the quality.
IZZY:
No, AVI is 1GB for 5 min, but I have 1hour tape and more.
so this isnt the case.
Waiting for other ideas, thanks
Izzy
this is how i started it:
I captured from vhs tape, got .avi file with good result compared to original video. file I get is 1GB fo each 5 minutes of tape.
The tape length is 1:30hr.
Now - I convert it to SVCD using tmpgenc. it works nice, but final quality (when viewed by wmp9) is poor if I choose "full screen". Picture is small if I choose "center".
Any good advice? better make it dvd? or is it that thew original file (.avi) res is too low? in short- i need basic help.
Izzy
Ok firstly VHS isn't too good to start with never mind after being captured.
It is low resolution any way.
The only way you are going to acheive better quality output with this file is by raising the bitrate however this will increase the file size.
Consider creating a VCD rather than a SVCD. VCD is the same resolution as VHS so it makes sense and you will also be able to use a higher bitrate.
To get the best file size vs quality ratio you should use a VBR method of encoding. CQ is best, but the file size is unpredictable.
With 2 pass you can calculate the final output size using the wizard.
Ashy -
I tried the vbr 2 pass and the cq and the cbr with higher bit rate - all give acceptable results when viewed on the pc monitor.
how will it be when seen on a tv screen played as vcd from a DVD player? should I use "center" or "full screen" or other setting?
>Normally I would use 'Fullscreen (keep aspect ratio)'
I tried all possibilities now. still i am not satisfied with the results - the vhs tape as viewed on tv screen is much much better then the best i can get on vcd type file.
can you suggest other possibility? you said before that svcd wont give much (the source is always old vhs tapes). mayby DVD format?
Do you have a DVD burner?
To get the best then capture the VHS video at full DVD resolution. 704x480 for NTSC and 704x576 for PAL.
Then use the DVD template to encode it using VBR.
To be honest the quality is heavily reliant on the abilities of your capture device to produce a decent output. If the source capture is good enough then there is no reason why the final encoding shouldn't be good also.
I think your expecting too much from VHS captures as they will always look low quality because of the nature of the format. However they always look better when played back on a hardware player and a T.V. rather than a PC monitor.
I can get tmpegdvdauthor to author my svcd 408x408 to a dvd but i have to patch the header of the mpeg to 702x480 load the file into dvdauthor then delete the mpeg and replace with the 480x480 version.(ie ticks dvd author into using the non compliant file)
I end up with a dvd thats at 480x480 mpeg2. This would be a lot easier to produce if the dvdauthor could have its mpg compliance turned off so i could load the non compliant 480x480 dvd straight into dvdauthor
Something that I have found by accident is that if you are editing a video using the "frame by frame button" next to the speaker icon and you right click while holding the button down with a left click, the video will play continuously in frame by frame mode. This saves some wear and tear on the mouse finger. I didn't see it in the help so I thought I'd pass it along.